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Name: Candace
Email: ccsmith@ccms.net
City: Austin
State: TX
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN
Treatments: Currently none; previously on Tegretol, Dilantin,
Neurontin, Baclofen and Ultram
Comments: Recently had MVD
Date: 12/29/99
Story
Four months ago I underwent an MVD for TN. At the time of surgery I
was at the end of my rope. I was on so much medication to control TN
(actually I use the term "control" loosely) that I had trouble
standing up straight. I was frequently dizzy or drugged. I have a
wonderful husband and two young children. I felt like TN managed every
aspect of our lives. I work full time but most of my day was spent in a
haze. Both my neurosurgeon and neurologist have been wonderful. My
doctor's could make no promises that MVD would work but I was young
enough that my chances were good that there would be a successful
outcome. I spent 15-18 hours a day in pain before surgery. Before
surgery I could not kiss my husband or my children! It has been four
months and that simple joy along with routine things like washing my
face or brushing my teeth without pain is incredible. MVD may not work
for everyone and it certainly is not for everyone however I can tell you
that the joy you feel of being free of the pain is unmeasured. I thank
God for the TN Association and the contributors to this web site. It was
here that I began my own education in TN when most doctors did'nt know
what I had. Some had never even heard of it! Everyone who goes through
the horror of this disorder and feels isolated when there is no one out
there who understands what your going through can take comfort in
finding someone here who does understand.
Name: JEANETTE G.
Email: CGONZALEZ@AMSOUTH.COM
City: PALM HARBOR
State: FL
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: DILANTIN
Comments:
Date: 12/28/99
Story
IT STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO (I AM 51 NOW) WITH TOOTH PAIN AFTER
HAVING GUM SURGERY. THE DENTIST KEEP TELLING ME I WAS GRINDING MY TEETH.
HE WOULD FILE THE AREA DOWN (LOWER RIGHT JAW). THE PAIN WOULD GO AWAY.
THE NEXT YEAR THE PAIN IS BACK BUT A LITTLE STRONGER. DENTIST CONTINUES
TO SAY I GRIND MY TEETH, SAME PROCEDURE DONE. PAIN GONE. PAIN COMES BACK
THE NEXT YEAR EVEN STRONGER THIS TIME. DENTIST SENDS ME TO SEE A
SPECIALIST (ROOT CANAL). TOOK X-RAYS. HE SAID HE COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING
WRONG WITH MY TEETH. TOLD ME TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. PAIN WAS
SO BAD I WAS AFRAID TO EAT OR SPEAK. WENT TO MY DENTIST AND DEMANDED TO
HAVE THIS TOOTH PULLED OUT (WOULD NOT TAKE NOT FOR AN ANSWER). HE SENT
ME TO AN ORAL SURGEON, WHO REMOVED THE TOOTH UNDER PROTEST. AFTER ASKING
SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT MY PAIN AND HOW IT STARTED HE FINALLY SAID
"I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TN".
THIS DR. PRESCRIBED DILANTIN 200 MG A DAY. AFTER A WEEK OF THIS
MEDICATION, THE PAIN STOPPED. YES I DID HAVE SOME SIDE EFFECTS. AFTER
THE PAIN COMPLETED STOPPED THE DR. WINNED OUT OF THE MEDICINE. I NO
LONGER USE THE MEDICATION, BUT HAVE HANDY IN CASE I NEED IT.
I HAVE SINCE THEN OCCASIONALLY EXPERIENCED MINOR ELECTRICAL OR
STABBING PAINS AND SOME SENSATIONS ON THAT SIDE BUT NOT AS BAD AS THE
FULL BLOWN PAIN.
I KNOW IT MIGHT RETURN SOON OR MAYBE NOT, BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT AT
THIS TIME THIS MEDICATION WILL HELP ME. I AM NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
RETURN OF THE PAIN SINCE READING ALL THE LETTERS FROM OTHERS WITH THIS
DISEASE. THANKS FOR LISTENING.
JEANETTE
Name: JME
Email: jujoy@earthlink.net
City: Minneapolis
State: MN
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Unknown
Treatments: None at this time
Comments:
Date: 12/21/99
Story
After reading stories like these and doing my own research on the
internet, I believe what I have is Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia. I'd
really love to find others with similar symptoms and see if you have
found any help.
It started about 7 years ago with intermittent tingling sensations in
my gums, top right side only and surrounding one tooth in particular.
Dentists patted me on the back and sent me on my way saying there was
nothing wrong.
Over the course of the years the pain has gotten more severe and more
frequent. Now it is constant pain that seems to start, or at least
manifest itself, in that same area of my gums between my right upper
molars. Some days it is minor pain and some days is severe. It radiates
up my face and, sometimes, almost makes my eye water. Sometimes it is
not sharp pain but more of an aching pain. I saw several dentists and
finally was referred to facial pain "specialists" who have not
been able to do anything for me in the two years I have been going to
their clinic. They have not even mentioned anything like TN, ATN or
anything like it. I found this on my own!!! (It's the only thing I've
seen or heard that even comes close to what I have been experiencing.)
The doctor's just keep making me come back they just keep telling me
things like "this is a difficult case" and they "just
can't seem to figure out what would be causing this pain." I'm not
even sure they believe that I have pain. I am so frustrated by it all!
I'd love to know of others with similar symptoms and possible
treatment ideas.
Name: Annamarie P.
City: Dublin 15
Country: Ireland
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Neurontin 400mg 3 times daily Zydol 100mg 3 times
daily
Comments:
Date: 12/21/99
Story
I found out that I'm suffering from TN only a couple of months ago. In
fact it started last November. My Doctor sent me to the Dentist to see
if it were my teeth but they were fine. the pain is sooo bad at times I
just want it cut the pain away. I was on Tegretol 300mg but they change
my tablets last month, as they did not seem to help me at all and to
tell you the truth I don't think the Neurontin is either.
Name: ann
Email: parrothead@redrose.net
City: lancaster
State: pa
Country: US
Diagnosis: neuralgia
Treatments: i am curently on vioxx and dilantin and take
amitriptyline to sleep at night
Comments:
Date: 12/20/99
Story
My name is ann and i am 36 years old. My story starts 2 and a half years
ago. I went to the dentist and was sent for a root canal on my front
left tooth. In the meantime i had ear pain and went to the family doctor
and was sent to an ENT who told me I had tmj. I went and had the root
canal and ever since the root canal my tooth and gum hurt. The tooth and
gum do not hurt all the time just sometimes. One day might be the tooth
and one day the gum. When i get that pain i also get pain in my cheeks
and pressure in my nose. I was being treated for a sinus infection but
it did not help so i had sinus xrays taken and they showed no infection.
Then i started having headaches and blurred vision and pain around my
eyes. I went to the eye doctor and they did test and found nothing. They
sent me to a neurologist to have a lumbar spinal done and found nothing.
Then they did a brain scan and found nothing. in the meantime i was
being treated for the tmj. had a mouth guard made but could not wear it
cause of the tooth. I went back to my dentist complaining once again of
gum and tooth pain but told him i can't tell if the pain is coming from
the root canal or the tooth beside it but that my gum hurt into my lip.
He sent me to a root canal doctor to look at it and the doctor said
nothing is wrong. and told me there was nothing he could do. Went home
and the pain got so bad that i would sit and rock back and forth and
pull my hair out. So my hubby called the root canal doctor back and he
told me to come back in and he did root canal on the tooth next to the
one that already had the root canal and he numbed the gum but i felt so
much pain anyway when he did it. After about 4 days of constant pain it
was time to go back to see him and i told him i worse pain so he opened
my gum up to see it there was an infection and there was nothing there.
He again said sorry nothing i can do if your still in pain go to your
family doctor. Well we called the tmj doctor instead and told him and he
sent me to someone in the next county and they did not find anyone so
they sent me to a oral surgeon who open my gum and looked and said there
is nothing wrong and told me to go to the pain clinic. Then i started
getting dizzy and having pain in my arms and legs. I went back again to
the tmj doctor and asked if this was tmj relatied and he said no and
gave me med for the tooth and said i had neuralgia. but not what kind.
So as of right now i am on med for the tooth but my pain seems to shoot
all over my mouth. sometimes it feels like all my teeth hurt. the right
side of my face has really been hurting the last couple of days and the
dizziness has gotten worse. the pain is always a throbbing one. and i
get pressure headaches. No one has a real clue what is wrong with me and
all i do is cry and get angry . I have no quality of life . I have 2
kids that need me a 3 yr old and a 6 month old. I will be sometimes pain
free for 6 months. When the weather gets bad it is the worst. I just at
this point wish a doctor really knew what was wrong with me. I do know i
have tmj but was told the tooth pain is not related to that. but other
than that the doctors have no clue. Doctors have treated me like dirt
about this. They come to think this is all because of stress and not
real pain. the stress if any i feel is from them. I am at my last rope
with no hope. I am giving this med a try have been on it for a week was
told it takes up to 3 weeks to help. as anyone had symptoms like mine?
IF so i would love to hear from you.
Name: Tamra
Email: quik333@aol.com
City:
State: IL
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: carbamazepine, 2 operations, Elavil, pressure points
Comments:
Date: 12/20/99
Story
I'm 37. I've been living with this horrible pain for 22 years although
after these last two weeks, I can't imagine how. I remember my first
pains when I was 15...not long after I had mono/hepatitis. Because I
didn't want to bother my family, I kept my pain to myself as much as
possible but complained only about my "ear pain" when it
completely incapacitated me and I couldn't move without the stabbing. It
came suddenly and went just as suddenly. Sometimes it lasted 10 minutes,
sometimes 36 hours. It didn't seem to have any pattern (I tried for
years to catalog it), seemed aggravated by any number of things ie.,
smiling, laying my head down, a cool draft, wind, putting my hair up,
wearing my glasses and other "paranoias". I used to get a bad
taste in my mouth. The pain comes suddenly, any time day or night and
leaves just as instantaneously. My demon is stabbing sharp pains in the
sides of my head and ears and sharp electrical shocks up the back of my
skull. Usually only one side of my head at a time, mostly right but
sometimes left side and once in a great while...both sides. Although
lately, I've experienced the stabbing with skull and facial pressure so
crushing that it feels my eyes will pop out and my head will explode.
There are dagger stabs behind both of my eyes and massive aching in my
jaw and ear. The sharpness of the stabbing in my skull is such that I
feel I can't move. I'm scared to move lest it stabs me even worse. I can
hardly talk...just try to speak without moving my lips. The pain is
blinding...my brain aches and hurts terribly even now...but only on the
right side this time. Sometimes it's the left but mostly on the right.
When I was 23 or so I started going to the doctor's on my own. The first
MD sent me to an oral surgeon who suggested maybe TMJ and decided
extraction of my 4 wisdom teeth, 4 molars and an extra side tooth would
rid me of these episodes. I had this procedure done in a hospital in
surgery on New Year's Eve 1984 because I didn't want to start a new year
with "the pain". 6 weeks later I got the pains again. I knew I
hadn't been diagnosed right because the pain was the same. The next 4-6
years I spent diligently going from one specialist to the next, mostly
neurosurgeons who put me on Elavil, told me to chew gum, not to ride the
elevators and to go into a dark room to relax because it's probably
stress. Nothing showed on MRI's, nothing on CAT scans, nothing in blood
workups yet I continued to have these debilitating head and face pain
episodes. Finally in 1989, I saw a neurosurgeon who thought I had a
blocked salivary gland on the right side. I told him sometimes the pain
is on the left but he said it was probably radiating. He suggested
surgery to unblock the gland, which I gladly accepted. I went home
feeling on top of the world because I thought I was finally going to be
released from this pain after 12 years. However when he opened my neck
for surgery he found at least 10 years of hemorrhaging, a completely
destroyed right salivary gland, destroyed smaller glands and an
infection ravaging its way through my neck. The operation was
long...maybe 6 hours or so. He cleaned up the "messiest neck I've
seen in my career". He completely removed what was left of my right
salivary gland, removed misc. small glands, sent the infection sample to
pathology and closed me up. Pathology couldn't identify the infection
but he called the operation a success, except for the small nerve in my
chin that they snapped. "That will only cause a small droop in your
right bottom lip and some deadening along the jaw line." Oh well,
at least the pain was gone. Until 8 weeks later when we were on vacation
and it hit me in the middle of King's Island. So bad was the stabbing in
my head that I couldn't function, couldn't move, couldn't talk, couldn't
keep the tears away..another vacation ruined. Went back to the guy who
did my surgery and reported the same pains, no better, no less. He said
he fixed the problem, I couldn't have pains. They must be phantom pains.
He absolutely would not entertain the possibility that he had not cured
me or even diagnosed my problem correctly. He would not address the fact
that they hadn't identified the infection. He would only say I was
having phantom pain and he had removed most of my neck (can you
imagine?) and there wasn't anything left in there that could hurt. I
left there with so much disappointment in my heart. After the stitches
were removed I think I saw him once more to report worse pain. Needless
to say I didn't go back to him. Nice scar on my neck though! Another 5
years of medical professionals, hypnosis, lost time at work, lost days
and lost moments and so much blinding pain! Saw an infectious disease
control guy at Northwestern who said my symptoms mirrored a rare island
disease. He tested, I didn't have it. He looked at my records of the
neck operation but said that doctor hadn't really diagnosed what the
cause of my problem was or what the infection was so he would have no
way of knowing what happened then. He would only offer cortisone shots
to the base of the skull. No thanks. In 1997 I went to a facial surgeon,
who diagnosed classic glossopharyngeal neuralgia, put me on
carbamazepine and told me I'd be on it the rest of my life. It doesn't
help. The pains keep getting worse and are becoming much more
debilitating. I've spent the last 49 nights without more than 3 hours of
sleep at a time because I can hardly stand to lie my skull sideways or
stand the pressure from the pillow. If my head is sideways more than 3
hours or so, I get the stabbing...full force and end up bolt upright in
my bed trying anything to stop the pain. If I lay on my right, the pain
comes on the right. If I lay on my left, the pain comes on the left.
I've been home from work for the past 2 weeks in the most horrible pain,
hardly able to talk or move my lips or my head. When the pains start
coming someone in my family usually grips my skull (forehead & lower
back of skull) to try to offset the pressure in my head. Other times the
pain is too great for anyone to be able to touch me. There is alot of
screaming, alot of crying and alot of frustration. My boyfriend loses
lots of sleep. He's frustrated. He has found a way to momentarily cut
off some of the main stabbing pains by pressing pressure points on my
hands, feet, arms, thighs, skull, etc. My mom came to sit with me for
two days. She cries when I'm screaming in pain but also does a good job
at gripping my skull to relieve pressure. But the pain has been so bad
for the last two weeks. It got so bad last week I ended up popping a
morphine pill which didn't even take off the edge. Carbamazepine isn't
doing anything either. There's so much pain I can't think straight. I
can't function like this. There is rarely any relief. Seems worse around
my period. The episodes seems to be lasting longer as I'm getting older
and becoming much more awful. I'm not eating well because of the pain
and I'm already a thin 98 lbs. I own a business. I'm going through a
divorce. I can't deal with this pain anymore. I can't stand the control
this has over my entire life. I don't seem to be able to find any
sufficient research going on with regards to TN or GN. Who claims to be
the best in this field? Which facility specializes in this field? I'm
convinced my TN/GN is caused by an infection or was originally set off
by the mono/hepatitis. I've read of others who also had mono or a low
grade infection prior to first pain. Because of my divorce, I no longer
have insurance so I'm unable at this time to seek medical help. With new
insurance does this become a pre-existing situation? Will I ever be able
to get new treatment coverage for this since I've had it for 22 years?
Is anybody out there with TN or GN on disability? I can't think of many
disorders as incapacitating and disabling as this. I wish nobody had to
suffer from this terrible disorder and that some great person could find
a way to put this pain under control. It is truly devastating to those
who have it and their families. If I can be of help to anyone..just
e-mail me Thanks
Name: EJ
City:
State: PA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol, Baclofen
Comments: thanks for providing this forum
Date: 12/20/99
Story
I have had the symptoms for two years. It seems they became worse after
surgery in Feb. 98 to remove a tumor from my tongue. It has gotten much
worse in the last few months. I want to say to Tony (anonymous) that it
was astonishing reading his story, because it sounds so much like mine.
I made the rounds of ENTs, of course worried that cancer had recurred in
my head/neck area. My symptoms include: pain at back of my throat,
difficulty using my voice (actually hurts to talk), neck, shoulder &
arm pain (left side), pain in ear, plus increasing upper body weakness,
and high blood pressure, (it was always low before).
These seemingly disparate symptoms made no sense to me or to most of
the drs. I'd seen, until my ENT surgeon finally threw up his hands and
said, " Maybe it's neurological-could be 9th cranial nerve!" I
jumped on that and began to learn more about glossopharyngeal neuralgia,
which brought me to a consultation in Pittsburgh last month, and was
told I had GN and was a candidate for MVD. I then took all this
information to my local neurologist who is quite conservative and wants
me to try all medical possibilities before chancing surgery. but he
moves very slowly!
Tegretol made me very sick, so he took me off of it, and I am now on
Baclofen 15 mg. 3xday, but it is not enough. I will ask him to try
Neurontin this week--I need something to get me through the holidays! I
do think I may wind up having MVD, but that decision is on hold for
right now. I do get the shivers when I think about anyone drilling a
hole in the back of my skull and messing with my nerves and blood
vessels back there. I need to hear all sides of the surgery story.
Thanks for your help.
Name: Madilyn G.
City: warren
State: Mi
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Kinesealogy
Comments: I didn't want to live my life on drugs!
Date: 12/19/99
Story
I had my first bout with this disease about four years ago. I suffered
for almost two years with symptoms that got worse and worse as time went
on. I went to several family practice doctors who kept sending me to
Ear, Nose and Throat doctors or dentists. Finally, I was diagnosed
correctly by an ENT. The weekend before my first appointment with my
neurologist I landed in the hospital with unbearable pain. The
neurologist recommended several different kinds of drugs, all of which
made me sick and exhausted. i was too tired to play with my children and
too tired to work. A dentist finally suggested I see a kineseologist. I
left the office pain free after an hour long visit. After two weeks of
three visits a week I was completely pain free! I suffered no
reoccurrences until a few months ago when a virus settled in my
trigeminal nerve and set me off again. I also suffered a severe double
ear infection so I did not recognize the symptoms immediately. I was
diagnosed again last week after spending two months in pain. Again I was
prescribed numerous pain medications. Again I made the decision to live
my life without mind numbing drugs. I visited the kinesealogist and I am
about 80% cured after just on half hour visit. I am totally convinced
that this treatment works. I know that I am blessed with a very good
doctor and others may not have that luxury. My doctor takes the time to
work on me, sometimes spending a full hour.
In case you do not know what kinesealogy is, I will try to explain.
(I also hope I am spelling it correctly.) A kinesealogist is a
chiropractor with a special "degree" or focus on the muscles
of the body and how they all relate to one another. My treatment
consists of my doctor first "identifying" my problem with a
series of "tests." These "tests" include such
examples as the doctor telling me to put my leg or arm etc. in the air.
He then will tell me to resist his pressure. If I can resist, all is OK.
If he can push my leg or arm etc. down then I have a "problem"
in that area. The doctor will then pick out an area on my body (based on
his tests) to "rub." These are areas that I never identified
as in pain previously. In other words, these are areas that I never
would have thought to say they hurt. But when the doctor
"pokes" the area, sure enough, it feels like it does when you
touch a bruise. The doctor will "rub" the area in a circular
motion. He says he can feel a node or "spot" and he rubs until
the spot ceases to hurt. This usually takes 10-20 seconds. He calls this
"clearing." For treatment on my TN the doctor will typically
rub my arm, neck, rib cage, legs and inside of my mouth. This sounds
crazy but it is the only thing that has ever helped me. My neurologist
suggested surgery or drugs but I opted for the least invasive procedure
I could find.
I would highly recommend to anyone unhappy with the drugs or afraid
of the risks of surgery to try this treatment. Costs are
minimal--usually about $60 a visit. My insurance covered mine with just
the cost of my co-pay of $10 per visit. This is not an invasive
treatment, there is little pain associated with it (just a mild
discomfort such as touching a bruise) and it works very quickly. As I
said, I was totally cured in 2 weeks when I was at my most severe and
80% cured in just one visit recently. Once you are better, there is no
need to keep returning to the doctor unless you have other problems.
Once caution: Make sure your doctor is qualified. If he is not or you
are not happy after a few visits, try another kinesealogist. A good
doctor will work with you for a minimum of 1/2 hour the first time and
15-20 minutes each time as you get better. You should see significant
results in the first visit and should be 80% or so after 3-4. No drugs
are usually used with this type of treatment, however, your doctor may
recommend a homeopathic or herbal supplement.
Good luck to all who try this. I know it is the only thing that has
worked for me. I have also used this kind of treatment for other
problems (my feet and knees) that other doctors wanted to operate for.
Best of luck!
Name: Stephanie
Email: sncollins2@cs.com
City: Marietta
State: GA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: Carbatrol, Advil, Alleve
Comments: Nothing really helps.
Date: 12/15/99
Story
Hello. I am new to this so bear with me. My first symptoms came about a
year ago while at work. My tongue had swelled where I could not talk.
The right side of my face swelled, noticably, and I was disoriented for
what seemed like forever. It was actually five to ten minutes. I was
finally able to down some Advil which reduced the swelling. From that
day on, I have had headaches, toothaches, ear-aches, memory loss and a
tingling in my scalp. 24/7, never going away. I tried my chiropractor
which relieved some tension in my neck helping with the headaches. The
pain in my tooth seems to come and go. Like others, I have had MRI's, CT
scans and a useless doctor. Everything showed up normal. No doctor has
ever taken a blood sample even upon my suggestion. I do not know what
may come of that only that it would have a starting point. I am tired of
having symptoms treated and seeing several doctors. When the pain is too
much, I become mean and short tempered to those around me. I have even
misconstrued the meanings of actions and words as if my friends are out
to get me. Sometimes the pain is so bad I cannot open my eyes or sleep
soundly. Needless to say, I am tired, always. So far, no help has come
my way. I am in search of new doctors and treatment
Name: JOJO
Email: Bonjo2661@AOL.com
City: Syosset
State: NY
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Atypical TN
Treatments: Zovirax, Nortryptyline, Fiorinol, Advil
Comments:
Date: 12/12/99
Story
After difficulty numbing me for root canal, I was finally able to
complete rootcanal by injection directly into the nerve. Upon follow-up
(post rootcanal)I awoke the next morning with spiral lights flying on
the right side of my head, having never had a migraine, I assumed this
was the aura before. I never did get what felt like a migraine, but
rather terrible unbearable sinus-like pressure for nearly 3 weeks. After
2 MRI's of the brain and sinus it was determined that this must be some
"quirky" virus that will just have to run its course. I have
since been to two neurologists, and oral surgeon, a opthamologist, a TMJ
expert and for physical therapy. Not one of these specialists ever
mentioned TN. It was my brother-in-law, who is studying spinal surgery
and in his 5th year residence, who immediately felt it sounded like TM.
I have tried Nortriptyline, which made me feel extremely jittery and
anxious. Fortunately for me, I do not have the severe pain mentioned,
but rather numbness to my upper teeth, sometimes with a burning feeling,
ear pain, temple pain, scalp pain and sometimes behind the eye pain. The
only possible explanation at this point it TN. I will now try neurontin
and acupuncture, with the hopes that this will help. Up until 3 months
ago, I was a perfectly healthy 38 year old wife and mother of 2 young
children. I have been blessed with a wonderful life and resent the
doctors suggestion that this is stress related. The only stress I have
is not having a diagnosis for pain that has plagued me for 3 straight
months. I am hopeful that perhaps neurontin may help, as most pain
killers do not. I will not give up my pursuit to return to a normal
life.
Name: Thomas
Email: oilovetam@aol.com
City:
State: Il
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Glossopharyngeal
Neuralgia
Treatments: Many of the same medications
Comments:
Date: 12/11/99
Story
My girlfiend has been diagnosed with this disease and has dealt with it
for over 20 yrs, She is 37. and for us, life has been a roller coaster.
We are, I guess fortunate to not have a daily constant pain, but it
comes in waves and lately it has come after she has laid down for 3-4
hours. I have been able to help in the pain management by using pressure
points and cranial pressure with my hands to help REDUCE the pressure
and the pain. Sometimes if I get it fast enough, it seems as if it
doesnt want to fight and will only be that brief moment, other times I
struggle to find the right point for the right type of pain and it
frustrates us both. I feel much better helping than standing and
watching, We have recently decided to start a chat on AOL to help
discuss this affliction and the ways we all deal with it. Please feel
free to email us and we will put you on a notification list for the
dates and times. We will also make a copy and email to those who are
unable to attend. I wish you all a pain free holiday, and please keep in
touch..
Name: Laura B.
Email: llbam@aol.com
City: St. Louis
State: MO
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegretol
Date: 12/07/99
Story
I will be having the gamma knife procedure done next week and am a
little anxious about the procedure. I would appreciate if any one would
share their experience with me. Mostly concerning the application of the
metal brace and any symptoms or affects after the procedure was done.
thank you
Name: kathy
Email: katsstorm@yahoo.com
City:
State: iowa
Country: u.s.a.
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN, Atypical Facial
Pain
Treatments: most meds
Comments: take control of your treatment!!!!!
Date: 12/05/99
Story
Hi! My name is Kathy. I wrote my personal story in here a long time
ago but i have important updates!!! I have had T.N. for about 3 years
now. I have seen about 35 Doctors, Dentists, Chiropractors, Neurologists
and 1 Neuro Surgeon. I am currently in pain most of the time. Some times
is bad and sometimes its not so bad. I have tried a lot of different
medication. Some have helped, some have helped for some time and then
quit and some have not worked at all. Results are different for
everyone. The medications i have tried are: Amitriptyline (currently
150mg p.d.) Tegretol Clonazepam (currently .5mg p.d.) Neurontin Dilantin
Baclofen (currently 10mg 3x p.d.) Ultram Lortab (currently as needed)
None of these has "cured" me. But some of them do help!!! I
recommend asking you Doctor for any drugs available for T.N. The
Internet is a great source for research on medications!!!!! My Great
Grandmother (maternal) had T.N. before they really had a name for it.
But looking back she had the exact same symptoms. My Mother had T.N.
about 4 years ago. She took Amitriptyline (25mg p.d.) for about 2 weeks
and her pain went away. She has the occasional jab or twinge but other
than that she is pain free. I have come to just about the end of the
drug therapy for T.N. I am having Microvascular Decompression surgery
done in 5 days and my Neurosurgeon is very optimistic! Most importantly
I want everyone to know is that you are not alone and you need to take
charge of your medical treatment!!! Do research!!! Find out what
treatments are available and demand them. If your Doctor doesn't know,
find one that does!!!! I have seen so many Doctors that don't have a
clue as to how to aggressively treat this horrible disease!!! If you
start taking a medication and don't see results in a couple of
weeks...call your Doctor! Any treatment is better than none at all! I
have begged my Doctors to help me. (They wont get mad if you suggest
medications you have heard about online or by word of mouth!) Explore
every avenue you possible can! I have suffered with this curse long
enough!!! If I just sit back and let the pain keep me from the great
life i should be having...why have a life! So please all of you! Help
your Doctors to help you. If anyone with T.N. needs a shoulder or have
questions about the treatments i have tried feel free to contact me
through my email! I would love to point you in the right direction!!!
I am also starting a T.N. support group in North Central Iowa. If there
is any one interested or interested in starting one in your area please
contact me or contact www.tna.com i hope everyone who reads this is
optimistic about this disease. And remember you are not alone...God
Bless!!!
Name: Kelli
Email: kellia@ispchannel.com
City: Bend
State: OR
Country: US
Diagnosis: Undiagnosed
Treatments:
Date: 12/04/99
Story
Hi Group; I'm a new member to this and haven't yet been diagnosed. About
three years ago, I was diagnosed with TMJ by my dentist and he gave me a
sleeping device and straightened my bite, and the pain went away until
recently. This time stronger and much more painful. I don't really like
to talk about my pain, so I went for about a month without talking about
it to anyone. In the mornings when I showered it's so painful in the
left side of my face that I have to cry. It feels like it originates in
my ear and I thought it was a bad tooth or something, though it's not
localized in any one tooth and the dentist has told me my teeth are
fine. I was talking to my mom about the pain I've been having and she
said that my grandmother had it very bad and that it must have skipped a
generation. It was extremely bad for my grandmother when the weather
changed to cold and she'd always cover her ears or the whole side of her
face would be in terrible pain. My mom got out her "Adele
Davis" book which describes various vitamin deficiencies, and it
began to talk about the B vitamins being helpful for this condition. In
the book it also talked about "emotional anger" and sometimes
getting to the root of that problem has been known to help, though I
don't really think that's my problem, I'm willing to explore any avenue
to stop the pain. Lately I wear a hat over my ears and face when I go
out in the cold and it really does help alot. I have just spent time
reading what others have experienced, and even though mine is just a
knew onset to this pain, my heart goes out for all that have suffered
for so long, and it does sound like the pain increases through the years
to many victoms. I am 40, and determined to not spend my life with this
pain. I don't really believe in taking prescribed medicines for long
periods of time and will seek other avenues for pain relief. There is an
acupunturist in town, and that will be my first "test" if the
pain hasn't found relief from the massive doses of the "B"
vitamins that I currently put myself on and also do a little soul
searching for things that I might be angry about that I've suppressed.
Though this pain is very real, and I hate when a medical profession says
things are "mental" therefore, I'm afraid to go to one, until
try to heal myself first. Thank you everyone for sharing your stories
and keep up this great website.
Name: Liz
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Carbamazepine, Dilantin, radio frequency rhizotomy
Comments: bad side effects
Date: 12/03/99
Story
I am writing about my mother who is 69 and was diagnosed a few months
ago with TN. She had dental work done last winter and that's when her
"electric shocks" in the face began, but they only appeared
from time to time and were bearable. This past September, they came with
a vengeance. She thought it was teeth related and ended up having
several teeth pulled, but that did not solve the problem. That's when
she was diagnosed with TN. The medications she was given made her sick
to her stomach, dizzy, weak and extremely tired. They also did not help
the pain and she began losing weight rapidly. She had rafio frequency
rhizotomy in November and that seemed to take care of the pain, for now,
but she still had to continue the medication. Well, the medication has
had such a bad effect on her that her gums began to swell, she had a
terrible burning sensation in her mouth and throughout her entire body
and is getting weaker by the day. We checked her into the hospital to
run tests and they fed her interveniously to build up her strength. The
doctor told her to stop the medication for now (she has been off the
medication for four days) but is now noticing the pain slowing coming
back. She's also depressed that she had her teeth pulled and may never
be able to get dentures for fear of the pain returning. Is there anyone
out there that can help. She was always such a strong, active woman with
a positive outlook, but is quickly losing her optimism. We are all
concerned. PLEASE HELP. Thanks!
Name: Yvonne G.
City: Forth Worth
State: tx
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretoll
Comments: Thank you for having this web site.
Date: 12/03/99
Story
I am a 54 year old female suffering from TN for two years. I was
fortunate in that the doctor who had treated my father for the same
disease, has also treated me. He feels in my situation it may be
inherited.?? I have taken 100mg of Tegretol with occasional two Alleve.
Was in remission for about four months last year. Last night I sat and
tears dripped off my face at a restaurant due to such severe pain. Not
only was I embarrassed, but I felt sorry for my husband. What could he
do? Nothing...Today I called for my first pain medication besides the
Tegretol also, had to up my Tegretol dosage. The thing that immobilizes
me is the "no answer". Sometimes I can laugh and it sets it
off..sip coffee..chew..I have been unable to BLOW MY NOSE FOR MONTHS.
You don't realize what a privilege that is until you can't do it. My
pain is like a nail being driven in your check bone right under the
corner of my eye-with a thousand hot needles being stuck in it also. I
was struck by what are some of the things which bring this condition on
that you all had listed on the web site. Infection being one of them. I
had worked in a Doctor's office for years, and had become ill with Mono
and a severe sinus infection - Not had many good well days since.
Thanks for the web site. Just reading about TN helped my today.
Especially after I quit crying from pain. Sincerely, Yvonne G.
Name: cd
Email: caryl@otvcablelan.net
City: Osoyoos
State:
Country: Canada
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegretol
Comments: well it don't help much
Date: 11/23/99
Story
Hi I have had this since I was 11. It was always fun it gym class
running along and it would strike , most horrible pain . wasn't allowed
to sit out either . From then till now it has been on and off . I am now
40 and think I have had all I can take The first cure they gave me was
to file down my filings ! That didn't work so I got some sort of pain
pill that wasn't much better than a aspirin . I suffered then right up
till I was 17 and remember to this day the moment the doctor figured out
what I had though I was so so young, he was baffled .. Don't remember
remember what he gave me either but it did not help at all. it wasn't
until I moved to Canada that a doctor here gave me my first tegretol.
Which helped so much. There was still a lot of pain as i was allowed to
take only 3 a day It came and went in not particular fashion . I tried
different things , one time a tens machine . That made me laugh as it
sent the sensation to my face that was coming out ! Couldn't use it.
Went to see a dentist after that and he figured it was a crooked set of
teeth so he invented me a brace to wear at night ..didn't work .. Made
it get a little more angrier if anything It has never really gone away
for any length of time 6 months or so and it is back again. I hate it I
have had 6 peaceful months this last little while and it is back . I
hate to go to sleep at night , and when i do it is on 2 pillows so I am
up in the air some. I find if I lay flat it is worse and it zaps me at
night in my sleep. I have been seeing the chiropractor for 2 years and
though it has not stopped it completely it has helped in the severity of
the attacks . That is all the treatment that I have had on this thing ,
went to consult a neurosurgeon in the Vancouver area as one doctor told
me there was a new cure where they used a laser to kill the nerves .. My
hope died there as the doctor had never heard of such a thing. He
offered me brain surgery BUT I was to young to take such a chance . So
here I sit 4 years later looking for some way to have it done . I don't
want to handle this pain anymore . I have it upper and lower. Though I
am lucky this time round i am able to wash my face I just can't brush my
teeth . I get a awful rage when it is happening ,when it is done I cry
and that makes one start all over again .its very hard on my family as
they want to help me or hug me and I can not stand to be touched at that
time for fear of it starting all over again. I am sick of the pills
(tegretol) as I don't know what I am doing half the time. Cant remember
anything , they make me ill and are not good for the body. The brighter
side ...........I try to find one most days but even a smile is painful.
If anyone has first hand experience of the surgery or the alcohol shots
and would like share that info with me I would greatly appreciate it . I
have read that some peoples face goes numb and they have no more feeling
with the alcohol shots .The brain surgery is what I am really interested
in .What the effect of that is if any ? As long as I can come out and
eat a great big hamburger i would be interested in that route . Please
excuse any spelling errors in here I look at something on this
medication and it looks fine but really isn't all the time . Thanks for
letting me share Caryl From Canada
Name: Dick
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Neurontin, Baclofen, and Tegretol
Comments: Be sure you can contact your doctor I was not so lucky
Date: 11/19/99
Story
I have suffered for 3 years with this condition. I was being treated
with Neurontin and Baclofen with poor results. My doctor changed my
treatment to tegretol and Baclofen. I developed a rash after 3 months on
tegretol. I attempted to contact my doctor but he was on vacation and I
was told that he could not be contacted. I was asked if I would like to
make an appointment next week. I developed Stevens Johnsons and was
admitted to the hospital for 3 days for treatment. I have now decided to
have surgery to correct the problem. Surgery is just 3 weeks away and I
am looking forward to relief of the pain.
Name: Sylvia C.
Email: Sylclemm@home.com
City: Waterloo
State: Ia
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Surgery
Comments: Nightmare
Date: 11/17/99
Story
I'm telling this story about my Sister. She had "Tic". For
two years she suffered. Terrible pains in her Jaw. I took to to Dentist,
Dr's Neurologist & Neurosurgeons. After trying several different
drugs such as Tegretol, Dilantin, Neurontin and Baclofen, she had an
allergic to all. Finally She underwent the "Needle Rhizotomy".
The first time the Dr. "burned" the nerve twice. After a week
the pain returned. She underwent the same procedure again ,this time he
burned it 5 times. After two weeks the pain returned. Then she underwent
the Percutaneous Rhizotomy. She was in the Hospital two days and went
home. This was 3 Months ago. Her "tic" pain is gone .However
she has double Vision in her eye, has frequent eye infections and Muscle
Spasms. Her face sags on that side she cant wear her Partial Plate and
she looks like a different Person. She cannot see well enough to drive
anymore. Is in a deep depression and i really feel sorry for her .Has
Anyone had this NIghtmare?????? Thanks for listening .She is 66 years
old but was a very attractive lady before but now she looks very Bad. I
try to take her places but she won't go much because she feels "ugly".A
nd also feel that she is a Burden to everyone.... Thanks Syl
Name: Candice
Email: propinquityclb@alo.com
City:
State: CA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: I refused typical treatments (sometimes take pain
meds)
Comments: Are you numb?
Date: 11/16/99
Story
I am a 30 year old female. In October of1999 I went to the dentist
to have an old filling replaced (molar). Directly after, I felt like my
bite was some what off. I went back to the dentist several times to have
my bite adjusted. Shortly after I began feeling pain in my jaw. ENT gave
me DX: TMJ. Then my face & half of my tongue went numb. Went to
neurologist DX: Trigeminal Neuralgia. Over a year and many other dentist
and doctor appointments later, the electric shocks have passed. I still
feel a lot of strange sensation but not nearly as much pain as in the
first few months. I do however feel cramping and burning. My face
remains numb (left side) as well as my tongue and lips. Although I have
had two MRI scans that ruled out MS, veins or tumors, something that
really bothers me is sensations I feel in the back and side of my head.
Sometimes I actually worry about my mortality. I fear a blood vessel may
burst. Is this sane? Not the best way to began your thirties. My last
DX: Atypical facial neuralgia. If you have similar symptoms I would like
to hear from you.
Name: Terri
Email: Terrilee.watson@telus.com
City: Burnaby, BC Canada
Diagnosis: Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia
Treatments: clonazepam, tegretol
Comments: tegretol helps, but too early to tell much
Date: 11/12/99
Story
Hello everyone, I have been suffering since '94 and misdiagnosed
until recently. I was surfing the net and found this site. I brought the
information to my Dr who at that time confirmed my diagnoses. I was
scared, but relieved that I hadn't imagined all this. The ENT kept
telling me that I had allergies, chronic sinusitis etc, so I kept
thinking it would go away. Here it is 1999 and I am suffering hourly. I
suffer with pain only to the left side of my face , head, ear,,eye and
throat. I get burning, stabbing electrical shocks as well as cramp-like
symptoms from yawing and swallowing. I feel like there is an ice cube
behind my left eye. Feels like someone has put the boots to my face. On
top of all this my heart beats irregularly and speeds up so fast I cant
talk. Has anyone else had this. I have an infant and I am so tired I
cant keep up. The pain just knocks the heck out of me. Does anyone have
any suggestions for me.
Name: Sharlyn
Email: wesmith@one.net
City: Burlington, KY Boone
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: carbamazepine
Comments: All I want to know at this point is there anyone out
there that has been healed from this condition? Either Divinely or
otherwise
Date: 11/10/99
Name: Eileen
Email: pebscarl@erols.com
City: Washington, DC USA
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: Neurontin, Percocet, Root Canal, Extraction
Comments: Seeking Advice
Date: 11/10/99
Story
I began having pain in my lower right jaw in February of 98, after my
dentist put a crown on a molar. The pain grew more frequent and
stronger, until it became chronic and sometimes excruciating. After a
root canal this August, the pain worsened. An MRI & X-rays ruled out
cancer & MS; a neurologist proscribed Neurontin, which helped for
only a short time. The tooth was extracted last week; Percocet provides
the only relief. I would like to hear from anyone with recommendations
or similar experiences, and recommendations on whom to see in the DC
area, if possible. Wishing all readers a pain-free moment. . .
Name: Jill V.
Email: verleej@mjsc.com
City: Grand Rapids, MI USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Geniculate Neuralgia
Treatments: Neurontin / 600 mg per day
Comments: I could use some answers
Date: 11/09/99
Story
I am a 35 year old woman and I have had pain located in and around
my ear, on and off, for about three years. It has gotten worse and
lasted longer each time. I went to a neurologist who diagnosed it as
Trigeminal Neuralgia. However, everything I have read about TN leads me
to believe that that is not what I have. I read some descriptions of
Geniculate Neuralgia, and that really sounded much more like what I
experience. The doctor put me on Neurontin, which seemed to help for a
while, but made me horribly sleepy all the time. I eventually lowered my
dose and went off the drug. The pain came back a couple days ago and I'm
afraid I may have to start the medication again. Another thing the
doctor has been watching me for is MS - due to her diagnosis of TN and
some other symptoms I have experienced (and due to my age at the onset
of the TN or GN). Does anyone know whether or not Geniculate Neuralgia
is as common in MS patients as TN? I haven't been able to find much
about it anywhere and any help I could get would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Name: Joe
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegretol xr 200MG every 12 hr. & baclofen 10 MG
tablet zen 1 tablet twice daily & and pain pills as needed
Comments: worse pain I have ever had; even worse than kidney
stones
Date: 11/08/99
Story
I had this condition first in 1994. It went away after about 1 week of
taking same medication. This time in1999 it's not going away so fast. I
have been suffering about 3 weeks. When I first got it this time it
seemed to follow within 1 day of 3 yellow jacket stings. About the same
time I was taking an antibody for another condition. Well within 3 days
of taking the antibody along with the tegretol & baclofen it went
away. Then to my sorrow I was stung 2 more times by yellow jackets and
within 2 days the problem returned. My doctor says the antibody thing
was coincident but I have had it now for about 2 weeks. Except for 2
times the pain has not been as bad as in1994 thank the lord. It seems to
hit me unannounced when I eat, rub my right side of my face, or talk a
lot. My right eye waters and I have nasal drainage when I eat. I am 69
years old and in good health otherwise except for a slight high blood
pressure which I take medication for. I can work in the yard etc. as
long as I keep my mouth shut, dont chew gum or rub my face; no problem.
Name: Trish
Email: trish2u@aasdcat.com
City: Altoona, PA USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Neurontin
Comments: Having break-through pain
Date: 11/07/99
Story
Hello, my name is Trish. My terrible ordeal started about three years
ago, when dining out, I had a strange sensation in my jaw. It felt as if
it were all rusty and to open my mouth to eat was very painful. The pain
gradually turned to excrutiating electric-like shocks shooting up
through my back gums and into the right side of my face. It also felt
like there was something shattering inside my face and I had burning
sensations. My dentist said I had TMJ. I accepted that diagnosis and
tried over-the-counter medicines, all of which did nothing. I couldn't
eat, couldn't talk, couldn't brush my teeth, couldn't touch my face
without being in pain. I was in the shower one day and without thinking
touched my face with the wash cloth and the pain was ripping through me
again when I started crying and begged God to take it away because I
couldn't handle any more pain. It went away! I was sooooo happy! This
lasted for about two years, and the pain was back again, even worse, if
you can believe that. I went to a so-called specialist that my dentist
referred me to to rule out TMJ. That was ruled out, but the
"specialist" told me I was suffering from muscle spasms. I had
accidently run across an article about a man who had this horrible
facial pain called trigeminal neuralgia. I asked him if this could be
what I had. He actually looked at me like I was stupid and said that
THAT was an extremely painful condition that never goes away and I did
not have anything like that. I told him that I DID have extreme pain and
he just told me again that I was having muscle spasms. My mother was
relieved, but I knew better. This was not a muscle ache, this was caused
by a nerve. This much I was sure of. I then went to my family doctor who
gave me pain medication that did nothing. I went back again to another
doctor who finally listened. She didn't prescribe anything that day, but
said that she would look into it and get back to me about it. After two
weeks or so I went back and she prescribed Neurontin. With the first
pill I took, the pain started subsiding. Within a week or two, I was
totally pain-free. I COULD EAT AGAIN! I COULD TALK AGAIN! I WAS ALIVE
AGAIN! I have been on the medication for about eight months and within
the past month I have been experiencing break-through pain. Each day it
is getting worse. I dread what I know is coming and I am so afraid. I
have an appointment next week and I hope that there is something else
that will work for me. I will have no health insurance in a few months
and the medication that I am taking is about $210 a month. I am so
afraid that I won't be able to afford the medication, and worse yet,
that if I need to have an operation, I won't have any insurance that
will cover it. I am also afraid of the side-effects, although anything
is better than suffering like this. My heart goes out to all of you who
are going through this also. You feel so isolated and alone because no
one can understand just how excruiating the pain is. I have five
children and am a single mother, so it was hard for them also when I was
in severe pain. I would get angry at them just for asking me something
because I couldn't talk without being in pain. I couldn't even suck
through a straw. The one thing that did help before I got medication was
when I could open my mouth enough to eat a milkshake from a spoon, I
would put it where it was hurting. I guess the coldness numbed it and I
would be pain-free until that wore off. Even a few minutes without pain
was like heaven. I have a suggestion. Maybe if we all said a little
prayer each day for our fellow sufferers, it could help someone out. It
may not take the pain away, but to make it bearable, at least, would be
enough. Also pray for doctor's so that they can understand us better and
also for better surgical techniques. I don't know why we were picked to
suffer this way, but we have been. Do we want it? I know we don't. But
we must be brave and at least we now know we aren't alone. That was the
one thing that terrified me the most - when I didn't know what it was, I
thought no one did. I thought I was the only one suffering this way. I
wouldn't wish this on anyone, but to know you aren't alone is somewhat
comforting. I thank God I got this computer and have the knowledge that
I do now about this mysterious disease. God bless you and you will be in
my prayers.
Name: Isela H.
Email: Ihernand@acuson.com
City: Mountain view, CA US
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegretol and carbamazepine
Comments: I will like to hear more about treatments and doctors
and hospitals were they be able to help.
Date: 11/05/99
Story
Hi my name is Isela, and I hope you can help me,
My mom is 77 she is been suffering from trigemina neuralgia for all
most 20 years, we did not know until few years ago that this horrible
pain is because she had what is call "trigeminal neuralgia
she did not tell the family for about 15 years, because she dont'
want for us to worry about this , her pain became horrible very intense,
and she is begin us not to let this pain make her suffer this way. ,I
can't see her rolling on her bed imploring us to do something for her
because she can't continue living like this her pain is on the rigth
side of her face, and some times she will get her right side of her body
paralysed, she can't talk, move, touch,or eat, she see the doctor and he
said that she had this sikness trigeminal neuralgia, and give her the
tegretol,the she is been taking for some years, now this medicine is not
doing notthing to her, she has been desintosficted from all the medicine
, about 4 times allready, but also she is been affected by de side
effects, like not valance on her body, nerviouness, tremors seking hands
yaw problems an so on, she have hight blood presure, and I know the she
will get worse as she is getting more older, I can't she her suffering,
beggin to us to end this pain, yealing crying, and rollin on her bed
because of the pain,she is the most precious gift the God had give me,
and I want to stop her pain!, can some body help me! Please , I need to
find help any were Thank you all, and God bless you.
Name: anna C.
Email: rb@gna.es
City: Girona, Spain
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN
Treatments: tegretol / tranxilium
Comments: no results/ cerebral resonances negative
Date: 11/04/99
Story
This is my mother's story (anna). She's been affected from TN since 1994
(aprox). She tried tegretol but she left it one year ago without
results. Cerebral resonances negatives the nerve is not affected but the
pain is real.She doesn't have an specialist that guides her. She has
visited facial dentist and he say that she have the jaw completly eroded
because of emotional problems. She is a very introspective person with a
lot of traumas, but she doesn't battles with them.We think that it is an
atipycal TN because she doesn't have the nerve affected. Can it the TN
be psychosomatic?? Actually she is in psychiatric treatment, since 9
months ago, but the pain restarted after 1 year of relaitve calm in a
very strong way. She's is desesperated.We need some solution urgently.
Thank you.
Name: simone h.
Email: simone@cafebep.a2000.nl
City: amsterdam, netherlands
Diagnosis: Anesthesia Dolorosa
Treatments: uncountable
Comments: mail only about anesthesia dolorosa please
Date: 11/04/99
Story
My name is Simone i'm looking for somebody who has Anesthesia
Dolorosa, or can give me any information about treatments of this
disease. I'm writing this e-mail for a dear friend of mine who's
suffering from AD. The doctors and professors in Holland can't help her
anymore. She's in pain 24 hours a day. Living has become so hard for her
that she's considering euthanasia. The only thing that stops het is her
11 year old son... She's been treated with all kinds of drugs and
surgery for 10 years for face pain. As a result of 'bad' surgery she now
suffers from AD she's been told the day before yesterday.
Please write me if you have the same problems or know treatments to
reduce the pain.
thanks a lot
Name: SKYE P.
Email: RHNEE@HOTMAIL.COM
City: KANE, PA USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN
Treatments: PAIN MEDICINE PERCOCET
Date: 11/01/99
Story
Hi my name is Skye Pennington and I am 16 years old. I was first told I
had trigeminal neuralgia when I was 14 years old. I woke up one night
with pain so bad in my head, face, cheek and chin so bad I thought I
would die before I got to my mother. I got to my mothers room and by
this time I was crying so hard I could not speak. I was in so much pain.
My mom calmed me down so I could tell her what was wrong and then she
took me to the emergency room at our local hospital where they gave me
Tegretol, and then a shot of visteral and Demerol. It made it better. I
was sent home on Tegretol. By the time mom got me home which was 10
miles, I was vomiting so bad she had to call the hospital back and they
said just to watch me all night, it could be the medicine. The next day
mom called my pediatrician and took me there when he told me he thought
it was Trigeminal Neuralgia... HE said he wanted to send me to my
dentist first to make sure it had nothing to do with my teeth, I went to
the dentist and he said no it didn't. It was trigeminal neuralgia. So my
pediatrician sent me to a neurologist in Olean, New York who told my mom
we were wrong it was facial migraines. In two months he had me on 5
medications and my mom said no more. She took me to my pediatrician and
told him she wanted a new doctor. We found Dr. Peter Jannetta in
Pittsburgh, Pa who helped us out so much. He tried a couple medications
but when they did not work, he told my mom surgery would be the best
route. Mom agreed. I had the microvascular surgery in May of 1998 and it
was successful for 1 month and the pains started back but not 1/4 as bad
as they were. My mom and I love Dr. Jannetta as he is the best. Today I
am back having the pains in both sides of my head and I am waiting now
to go back to Dr, Jannetta but I know and so does my mother that if
there is any way or any cure Dr. Jannetta will find it and do it for me.
I am only 16 and I want my trigeminal neuralgia to go away so I can quit
taking the pain medications and go back to school with my friends. I am
hoping I get my wish, Skye
Name: Jan
City: Ga, United States
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Suggested pills.
Comments: Didn't want to, too many side effects.
Date: 11/01/99
Story
About 3 years ago, I woke up experiencing facial pain on the right
side. I couldn't hardly wash the right side of my head. I couldn't
hardly eat. It hurt to walk, talk, and it lasted for weeks. It finally
went away. After 3 or so years it came back, worse than ever. It lasted
over a month this time. I went to my family doctor and he said that I
had TN. He didn't tell me what I could do for the awful pain that I was
experiencing. I made an appt. with a neurologist. He told me there were
several drugs that I could take. Some of them helped and some of them
may not. He also said that surgery would be his last resort. I decided
not to take anything at the time. I figured, why cause something else to
happen when I was in bad enough shape as it was. I suppose if it gets
painful enough, I will try anything. That is better than wanting to be
dead. After all I have 2 beautiful children that need me. But, when the
pain is so bad, I can't do anything with them. I can't even talk to them
without it hurting. It makes me feel so guilty because, I have always
been so happy go lucky and been the life of our house. They depend on me
to keep things going and making them laugh. I substitute teach at the
local schools and thank goodness, I can take off when the attacks hit.
There is no way I would go out in public because it hurts too bad. It
even hurts to smile. And, that is something I do all the time when not
in pain. When I first found out I had this, I felt so alone and doomed.
I had never heard of this before. Thank goodness I can now talk to
others that can relate to this terrible pain. It really helps! I have
been reading about some of the remedies that others have been trying and
will probably give them a try. I have also found that some medications
that I have to take for something else effects that nerve later. Tylenol
doesn't bother it, so, I can take that for headaches. I'm just wondering
if for some reason I have to have surgery if those medicines will affect
it later. I am hoping and praying that something will someday help all
the people that are affected by this.
Name: Rick L.
Email: rlemek@gtech.com
City: Harrisville, RI USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: currently on Dilantin and Vicodan for pain
Date: 10/27/99
Story
I was diagnosed with TN about 4 years ago and was treating it with
tegretol. I had been pain free for 1 1/2 years before the pain returned
with a vengeance in August (99). The tegretol didn't work, I then tried
Neurontin with no success and then Dilantin. The Dilantin provided some
relief but then I experienced breakthrough pain, so my dosage was
increased and I was also prescribed Vicodan for the pain. I am feeling
no pain but my quality of life is awful. The side effects of the
medication leave me feeling tired, confused, slow to respond,
uncoordinated and other such side effects. I have been on medical leave
for the last month and with each day become more depressed because I
don't see many good options for me to make this go away. I have recently
met with a neurosurgeon who suggested two possible surgical procedures
1) MVD and 2)radiofrequecy Lesion. I have also heard that some people
have found relief from chiropractors and/or acupuncture. I would be
anxious to hear from people who have experiences in these types of
treatment.
Name: golfered
Email: golfered99@aol.com
City: fort wayne, IN 46807 USA
Date: 10/26/99
Story
73 yr. old male. Diagnosed by 3 Neuro Drs. with paresthesia.
Symptoms: began 3/98, semi-numbness from top front of head to chin,
lips, gums. Had prickly pins and needles, but this is milder since going
on Neurontin, 800mg. per day. Have seen 3 Neuro. Drs. an oral surgeon
and lastly a Ent Dr. Have had many CAT scans, MRIs, eegs, emgs, spinal
taps and heavy metal blood. Nothing was found. The last was a facial CT
referred to an ENT Dr. He showed me that all my air pockets are clear
and other than a deviated septum, slight, there is nothing wrong, sinus
wise. But Neuro Dr. at IUmed believes my problem is sinusitis. My
condition is very gradually worsening and has me worried. When I eat, my
lips and gums feel like they swell, and stay that way for about an hour
after. I am beginning to think if I don't find an answer soon this
condition will become permanent. Would appreciate info on anyone with a
similar condition.
Name: Thomas
Email: piperarrow@worldnet.att.net
City: Grand Prairie, TX USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: microvascular decompression
Date: 10/26/99
Story
I contracted TN in 1991, not long after having a episode of Bells
Palsy. The conditions are not related, it was a strange coincidence.
For the past years I have been treated with varying doses of
Tegretol, and some pain medicine, which made things livable enough. Then
in July of this year, the pain went into overdrive. The Dr. tried
several other meds along with the Tegretol, such as Baclofen and such,
but to no relief. I was referred to a Neurologist, who then determined
surgery was in order, then I was sent to the neurosurgeon.
They performed the microvascular decompression procedure on me. The
surgery was about 4 hours, and I was in intensive care for 5 days, then
in a regular room on the nuero floor for 2 days.
Upon waking in ICU, the pain was gone from the TN, however I was deaf
in the right ear. At the time no one was overly concerned, but by the
time I was to be discharged everyone was concerned. Before leaving the
hospital I was sent for hearing testing, and found to have catastrophic
hearing loss in the right ear. After being home several days, it was
found that I couldn't walk without being terribly dizzy, and
motion-sick.
I have undergone tests and am starting physical therapy to help
overcome the obstacle I am now facing. I am a store Director for a major
superstore retailer, but haven't been to work in 3 months. I can't
drive, and riding in a car is terrible, due to motion sickness. They
have tried pills and the patch but to no avail. I am still taking pain
medicine, due to the constant violent headaches from the ringing in the
ear on the deaf side.
I am told that this recovery will be like recovering from a stroke,
at least 6 months to get over. I hope that is true, I have had no
improvement now in three weeks, and I am currently 6 weeks past the
surgery date. I am a male, 45 years old in very good health otherwise. I
was also a commercial rated pilot, and have never been effected by
motion sickness, and am used to routinely being subjected to any and all
attitudes in the air, so that is why this complication is so upsetting.
On the other hand, at least the TN pain is gone, which in itself is a
huge relief. I believe my surgeon is very competent, and did a good job,
I was told this is a complication they sometimes see.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has suffered from
the complication so I can get an idea what I might expect.
Name: ed
Email: golfered99@aol.com
City: Fort Wayne, IN USA
Diagnosis: Unknown
Date: 10/26/99
Story
73 yr. old male. Diagnosed by 3 Neuro Drs. with paresthesia.
Symptoms: began 3/98, semi-numbness from top front of head to chin,
lips, gums. Had prickly pins and needles, but this is milder since going
on Neurontin, 800mg. per day. Have seen 3 Neuro. Drs. an oral surgeon
and lastly a Ent Dr. Have had many CAT scans, MRIs, eegs, emgs, spinal
taps and heavy metal blood. Nothing was found. The last was a facial CT
referred to an ENT Dr. He showed me that all my air pockets are clear
and other than a deviated septum, slight, there is nothing wrong, sinus
wise. But Neuro Dr. at IUmed believes my problem is sinusitis. My
condition is very gradually worsening and has me worried. When I eat, my
lips and gums feel like they swell, and stay that way for about an hour
after. I am beginning to think if I don't find an answer soon this
condition wil become permanent. Would appreciate info on anyone with a
similar condition.
Name: Liza
Email: onesnbadd@aol.com
City: Mechanicsburg, PA USA
Diagnosis Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN
Treatments: tegretol 400 mg/daily
Comments: Possible TN?
Date: 10/23/99
Story
My problems all began in Dec 97, when a dentist filled 3 teeth with
white composite fillings, in a week I had pain in all 3 teeth, as a
result of the 2 out of the 3 teeth has abscessed, in which root canals
had to be performed, both tooth canals became infected and it was a long
road to what I thought was recovery, I eventually had both teeth capped
and thought the nightmare was over, when I began to experience the
following problems, I have slight tenderness in my right molar tooth
(root canalled) burning pain in my right cheek,, slight jabs (not as
severe as the ones I have read) these pains come deep within my cheek
and tend to go out my ear, and the most troubling to me is when I chew
food on my right side afterwards I can feel my right front tooth
clicking and feels loose, but I don't think it is,, also I have a
"tic" in the same tooth, Is this a possible symptom of TN? I
am desperate for a real diagnosis. I have complained to my dentist so
many times, and I think they think I am crazy... I have been to 3
endodontist and they cant find anything wrong. and just 2 weeks ago I
went to a neurologist and he suggested it is possibly TN, he has put me
on tegretol 400 mg a day which as relieved the burning in the cheek put
I still have teeth and facial pain. I am thinking of having the root
canalled tooth extracted.. It may be the root of my problem. I am not
convinced I have TN. any advice would be appreciated.
Name: Paul
Email: paul@steers37.freeserve.co.uk
City: Bolton, England
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: various drugs, electro-acupuncture and a
"block"
Comments: none of the above has worked for me
Date: 10/23/99
Story
When I was two and a half years old I had an accident involving a
tractor and a grass roller. (I grew up on a sports centre , my father
was the manager). Throughout my childhood I felt different to other kids
my age , I could not explain to the or my parents about this strange
feeling in my face and left eye. (the accident blinded my left eye).
then when I was in my early thirties I decided that enough was enough
and tried to seek help. Doctor after doctor , test after test , all to
no avail. I had never heard till today of anyone else experiencing the
same condition. I have not worked since 91 because of it..........as for
relationships, who would want someone who is in continual pain!
Name: Lisa
Email: Lisa4701@YAHOO.COM
City: LIVERMORE, CA USA
Diagnosis: Atypical TN, Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: ELAVIL
Date: 10/22/99
Name: Therese
Email: TMKSTL@aol.com
City: Manchester, Mo USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia
Treatments: Medication/Acupuncture
Comments: Some relief/but IT'S STILL THERE
Date: 10/21/99
Story
My first encounter with TN was in June, 1998. It started as a mild
electric spark in my lower right jaw, under the only tooth on that side
that was still "alive" - I had had two previous root canals on
that side. It increased to UNBEARABLE PAIN by mid-June when I finally
managed to get to my MD. She prescribed Tegretol - and it helped - a
little. Finally the MD at the Pain Clinic added Baclofen to the mix -
and I FINALLY got complete relief!!! Until April, 1999, when it came
back!! The MD at the Pain Clinic added several different drugs, but no
complete relief - Neurontin helped the most, but I still have pain, to
varying degrees, almost every day!! I am considering surgical
intervention - but it scares me - what can go wrong: the pain might not
go away. On the days when the pain is mild I think "I can put up
with this" - on days when the pain is intense I realize I can't. I
know TN is not fatal - but that doesn't help when the electric shocks
shoot up my face, and people I work with laugh because I am trying to
talk without opening my mouth!! I guess what I am looking for is an
answer!!!!!!!
Name: Ar
Email: AGH206@aol.com
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Story
I've had facial trigeminal neuralgia for 30 yrs. and it is eating
away at me. I went through a normal stage, with meds, almost pain free
is normal for me! Now it is in my head, ear, jaw and can't touch my
face. Combing my hair is a luxury. Taking a shower leaves me exhausted.
I can't keep giving excuses to my friends, family for not wanting to go
places. I want to be left alone. That is how I feel right now. I know
there will be better days. But I miss out on so much. I also have no
cartilage in my knees which restricts my walking. I've had drug blocks,
rhizotomy, emg, different meds. I do not want to go through any invasive
procedures as I hear pros and cons. I don't want another disappointment.
I don't want to be a zombie with medications.
Name: poohbear
City: Chubbuck, ID USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Several surgeries, nerve block, brain surgery
Comments: I am the daughter of a man with this disease
Date: 10/16/99
Story
I am the daughter of a man with this disease. My dad is now
70 years old and was diagnosed with TN when he was 40 years old. He has
had the disease on and off for 30 years. He has had several surgeries in
various States of the U.S. He has had several different Doctors. He is
recently experiencing a reoccurrence of this disease in the form of a
burning sensation in his face. When growing up, I remember the pain
usually coming in sharp jabs. My dad said they felt like an electric
shock going through his face. He told me at times the pain was
unbearable. I remember growing up in Idaho on the farm and seeing my dad
cry for the first time in my life. He was having one of his
"shocking" attacks and begging my mom to get him some help. I
had never seen my father cry before like that and it was very
frightening for my brother and sisters and my mom for that fact. My dad
has had several surgeries and seen various Doctors. I have just informed
my mom about this support group and asked her to write me a more
accurate history of my dad's disease and the different surgeries that he
has had in searching for some type of relief. I know that some of the
surgeries seemed to work for a time, but the disease always seems to
find its way back. I will try and update this story as soon as I receive
more information. My parents do not own a computer and I do not live
nearby. I am very interested in information about this disease and would
like to help my father any way possible. I want him to be able to enjoy
his grandkids without having to worry if he is going to get the disease
back.
Name: Renie
City: Madison, TN USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, NICO, neuralgia neuropathy
Treatments: Tegretol, Neurontin
Comments: This medicine is worthless
Date: 10/16/99
Story
My father has been battling with this facial disorder for approximately
1 1/2 years. He can drink cold or hot fluids and have this painful
attack. He has gone for days at a time not being able to eat because of
the pain. His physicians have given him Tegretol and Neurontin, which
has not alleviated the pain. Now, they have decided that the layer of
skin in him gum line was too thin and that may be the problem. I'm not
sure if there is anything else that they can try, but I do realize that
the medicine he's currently on has not alleviated the pain.
At this point my family is at a wait and see situation. I have spoken
with the physician and asked for pain medicine to relax him during his
painful experience. Well as you may know this is only a temporary
solution to this problem.
If anyone knows any other solution or other treatments which have
been successful, please let me know. At this point, anything is worth
trying. I really hate to see people at a point where they can not help
themselves, especially family members.
Thanks Renie
Name: Golfered
City: Fort. Wayne, IN
Diagnosis: paresthesia
Comments: mri's ct's spinal taps, eeg's emg's nada
Date: 10/14/99
Story
Have been to 3 neurologists, an oral surgeon and an ENT Dr. Have
about 40 MRI, ct, and panorax x-rays of my head down to the end of my
spine, along with the tests listed above. I have also had heavy metal
blood tests and 24 hr. urine. They can't find anything. They have
suggested sinusitis. My symptoms started in March of 98. I experienced
semi-numbness on the left side of my face and it progressed to my lips
and gums and about an inch up from the tip of my tongue. The last Dr. I
saw was a Neuro at IU Med. She said this would go away in 8 months, that
was March of 99.
I believe the condition is slightly worsening. The only medicine I
take is Neurontin, 800mg per day. I do take an enteric aspirin a day.
This condition makes it difficult to eat, it is an unpleasant experience
and I have lost 25-30 lbs . since the onset. Know very little about
neuralgia, whether it may be what I have, but would like to know if my
symptoms sound familiar
Name: Keith
Email: B168KM@AOL.COM
City: Bloomville, NY USA
Diagnosis: Tic Douloureux.
Treatments: Tegretol 3X day
Comments: Works but has bad side-effects
Date: 10/10/99
Story
My girlfriend has got this thing and it's driving both of us
nuts. She gets a shooting pain in the left side of her tongue. She
has seen a DDS, MD, ENT and a neurologist. They told us she has
"Tic Douloureux." They gave her tegretol but the
medicine has side effects..it makes her very tired and forgetful.
She drops things because of the pills. It makes the nerves in her hands
"jump." If anyone can give us information on how to deal
with this, please do so. Help.
Name: Rosy
Email: ellaeyal@internet-zahav.net
City: Telaviv, Israel
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: Tegretol + Acupuncture
Comments: Tegretol helped for a while but the real improvement
was with the acupuncture
Date: 10/6/99
Story
The first attack was 11 years ago. I was sure it came from the teeth
but my dentist found nothing. I went to a to neurologist and he made the
diagnosis of ATYPICAL FACIAL PAIN. He gave me Tegretol. At the first
year it really helped but after a year the pain came back, stronger and
more frequent. I went back to the neurologist and the only thing he
could do is increase the dosage of the Tegretol. This made a very small
improvement. One day I have found an article in the news paper written
by a doctor who is using acupuncture in some cases including this kind
of pain. I went to his clinic and he started the treatment, acupuncture+
electric current connected to the needles. After 3 month of acupuncture
I had no more pain and the doctor said that we can stop the treatments
for now but I must return to him immediately as soon as I feel the first
pain. After 2 very good years the pain returned much stronger but this
time the acupuncture didn't help anymore. After 3 month of terrible pain
and suffering when I lost any hope, I couldn't eat, hardly drink and
almost couldn't speak, I found an article of another doctor who is using
a new technique based on acupuncture+ injecting some natural product
locally and peripherally. I picked up the phone and I made an
appointment. He gave me a few injections and after a 30 minutes I felt
much better. In that evening I went to a restaurant and enjoyed eating a
good dinner. Of course I continued the treatments twice a week during 4
month until the pain gone. Now I feel much better but some times,
especially when I am in cold weather or cold wind, the pain attacks
again. In this case I am going back to the doctor for 2 or 3 injections.
During all these years I keep on taking the Tegretol 200mg two times a
day. I know that there is no cure to my disease but at least I know that
I can get some help in case of another attack.
Name: Angie
Email: ghentha@nicnr.com
City: Reed City, Mi USA
Diagnosis Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Several Nerve Blocks/Hospitalization for five days
and then strong medication
Comments: Three packs of Dilantin by IV;Morphine Shots; while in
the hospital
Date: 10/2/99
Story
My first experience was six years ago. I was treated with
antibiotics for an inner ear infection and the pain went away in about a
week. Three years ago it returned and I was treated for osteoarthritis
and anti inflammatory drugs and within ten days it was gone. July 2,
1999 the pain returned with a vengeance. Nothing seemed to help it. I
couldn't work. I couldn't swallow without having a spell of electric
shocks. It started in my ear, went to my temple, my cheek, my jaw, the
back of my tongue. In thirty days I lost thirty two pounds. I was
overweight, but that definitely is no way to lose weight. My family
doctor referred me to a pain clinic where they gave me a surgical block
which relieved the pain for about a week. I had two other surgical
blocks, but the last block caused the nerve to attack with a vengeance.
I was then having the excruciating pain every five minutes and after
approximately one minute I would pass out and quit breathing. That was
when the doctor had me admitted to the hospital. They put in an IV and
started me on two packs of Dilantin. The next day I had a third pack of
Dilantin. The Neurologist ordered an MRI of my throat, ear, and brain
but they were all normal. I am no taking 100 mgs of Dilantin four times
a day; 300 mgs of Dilantin 2 tablets twice a day; and two mgs of
Baclofen twice a day. The pain is under control but I still have twinges
and some of them are quite strong. I also hate the way the medication
makes me feel. The doctor has released me to go back to work on Monday,
and I am praying that I will be able to function because I only have
twelve weeks to go before I can retire.
Name: Anonymous
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol, MVD (twice), glycerol injection
Comments: Pain began after a car accident. Initially
misdiagnosed as severe emotional problems.
Story
I began reading the stories of others with this condition and felt
my experience with TN may contribute. I've had TN for 16 years. After a
car accident where I hit my head I began to experience facial pain as
well as TMJ (jaw joint pain. Initially the pain was excruciating and the
Drs. didn't have a clue what was wrong. As a lot of others I thought it
was tooth pain sinus, neck, any other explanation was explored. Finally
the dr. decided it was mental. I was put in the hospital for observation
and pain control. I continually complained of the pain but when the dr.
couldn't find any reason he said I had severe emotional problems which I
never had before no history, and needed to stay in the psychiatric
hospital. I knew in my heart it was physical but decided to go home and
get emotional support while I was seeking treatment and saw a
psychiatrist on my own. When I went she diagnosed me with TN. At that
point was given Tegretol and relieved some relief. She then sent me to a
neurologist and he confirmed it. It helped but not fully so he
prescribed pain meds. as a additive to help where the tegretol. left
out. Eventually I went to a neurologist ( the one that invented the
microvascular decompression) and received that procedure. I was better
but it came back in 6 months. Then 6 months later I received a second
surgery. The upper quadrant of my pain was immediately gone but the
lower never got better. Then I tried glycerol injections but was left
with extreme numbness and burning. As of now I am still on tegretol but
the help from the surgery has worn off. Six years ago I began to jerk
uncontrollably in my face initially and then moved all over. It's called
Dystonia and the constant facial movement causes the nerve to act up
even worse. I am waiting for a procedure that has minimal side affects.
I'm looking at the gamma knife treatment because of the low side
effects. By the way I dislike the effects of tegretol. Some days I
find myself only being able to concentrate for 15 minutes at the time.
One day at my child's dr. appt. I couldn't remember her birthday. But
without tegretol the pain would be unbearable. By the way I was pregnant
while on it and she turned out with no birth effects and is bright and
beautiful.
Name: Steve H..
Email: shodgso@hotmail.com
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Diagnosis:: Trigeminal Neuralgia , Anesthesia Dolorosa
Treatments: MVD
Story
I had a decompression operation in 1995 that was very successful in
curing my pain, but it left me about 70% numb on the right side of my
face.
Since then I have gradually developed a rosacea (reddening of the
skin) on that side of my face. I would like to hear from anyone else who
has experienced this side effect and how it was controlled.
Name: Kathy
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol
Date: 9/27/99
Story
It sounds really petty compared to the stories I've read but I have
been on tegretol since the beginning and have been pretty much pain
free. Now, my liver is becoming affected and the doctor has
reduced me to 200mg daily, having some aching and waiting for the big
pain to hit. I am very afraid. I read the stories and wonder if
that is my future? I am 51 and looking forward to enjoying my 2
little grandchildren...I am a fairly new grammie. I dream at night
about the pain hitting. The attacks were very severe. It
took 3 months of treating me for other things before a P.A. diagnosed
me. I feel for each and every one out there with this horrible
disease. I have no health insurance so I am on my own. What else can I
try that might give the same results as tegretol but without the liver
damage. I am thankful for this outlet. It's hard to explain
this to anyone.
Name: Tony
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
City: Menai Bridge
Country: UK
Treatments: Carbamazepine, Amitriptyline
Date: 9/26/99
Story
ONSET OF TGN
My first experience of TGN (I notice some people abbreviate it as TN
but I have got used to 'TGN' and will stick with it) was shortly after I
had had several of my teeth crowned when I was aged about 51.
Part of the course of treatment was filling a root and also treating
the same tooth for infection in the root by an apicectomy (going
directly through the gum and bone to the bottom of the tooth). It was
shortly after this treatment that I began to experience pain which
seemed to come from deep in the jaw near to where the tooth was treated
(lower jaw, left side, slightly nearer the front than the back of the
jaw).
TGN 'CAUSED' BY DENTISTRY?
Knowing nothing about TGN, I naturally assumed that the pain was due
to some damage caused by the dentistry - because the pain first appeared
shortly after dental treatment and in the same area where the major
treatment had been done.
One thing that reinforced this belief was the fact that the 'bursts'
of pain seemed sometimes to be triggered by things like fresh orange
juice - as if the juice were finding its way down to some part of the
tooth or jaw where a nerve was exposed.
TGN seems to be associated with dentistry sufficiently often to
justify research to establish whether there is a real connection and, if
so, to find out exactly what the connection is. Saying that dentistry is
'merely' a 'trigger' for TGN (which is what we are often told) seems to
me to be far too superficial.
GETTING A CORRECT DIAGNOSIS: GO TO A SPECIALIST HOSPITAL FOR
TEACHING AND RESEARCH IN DENTISTRY
At the beginning, the pain was not too severe and it would disappear
for months at a time. As seems to be normal with this condition, it got
gradually worse until the 'bursts' of pain were bad enough to make me
cry.
I did the usual round of dentists and one hospital specialist. It was
clear that none of them knew what they were dealing with and could only
suggest using toothpaste for sensitive teeth. I even had the tooth with
the root filling extracted. As often seems to happen when people try to
cure TGN by pulling teeth, the pain simply transferred itself to the
teeth nearby.
I decided to travel further and go to a hospital for teaching and
research in dentistry. This quickly led to a correct diagnosis. The
specialist who examined me suspected immediately that I had TGN and
suggested I take Carbamazepine (Tegretol) as a diagnostic test: if it
relieved the pain then, almost certainly, the problem was TGN. Oddly
enough, it was at about this time that my own dentist suggested that the
problem might be due to TGN. Nevertheless, I would recommend to anyone
with this kind of problem to *** get an opinion as soon as possible from
a specialist in a hospital for research and teaching in dentistry ***.
TREATMENT WITH DRUGS
I was started on 100 mg of Carbamazepine each day, in 4 doses of 25
mg (after breakfast, after lunch, after supper at about 6 to 7 pm, and
last thing before bed). This relieved the pain almost completely but it
made me feel very uncomfortable and 'drugged'. I was not at all happy at
the prospect of having to live like that for the rest of my life!
Within a few weeks or months, the 'drugged' feeling eased off and I
began to feel normal. But, at the same time, the drug was losing its
effectiveness in killing the pain.
To keep pace with the pain, the dosage was increased quite rapidly
until I reached 800 mg per day (in 4 doses of 200 mg). This was a level
which had been suggested as a maximum but I have learned later that the
dose can be as much as 1600 mg per day.
Since the pain was not properly controlled at 800 mg per day, I was
also taking pain killing drugs (mainly Co-dydramol but I did at one
stage need to take Dihydrocodeine). Fortunately, at about this time, I
saw an Australian doctor who was working for a short time with the other
GPs in the practice that I attend. He suggested that I could use
Amitriptyline together with the Carbamazepine. He prescribed 75 mg per
day to be taken in 3 doses of 25 mg each. I take them after breakfast,
after supper at about 6 to 7 pm and last thing before bed.
Although he said that this drug would take about 6 weeks to have an
effect, I found that *** it relieved the pain very rapidly ***. I don't
know why this happened. It may be because the Amitriptyline was being
taken in conjunction with the Carbamazepine.
Despite the fact that I cannot now take alcohol (and I used to enjoy
wine and beer in moderation), I feel relieved that I seem now to have a
combination of drugs which keeps the pain at a level where it is low or
absent. Certainly it is quite bearable. I have been taking this
combination of drugs now for about 2 years and there has only been one
or two occasions where I had to increase the dosage (of Carbamazepine to
1000 mg per day) and then only for a short time.
Note added 26th September 1999. It looks as if, after about 4 years,
the effectiveness of the drugs is decreasing. I am now on 1000 mg of
Carbamazepine per day to control the pain.
SIDE EFFECTS (THAT I KNOW ABOUT)
These drugs may cause me long-term harm but I have no evidence for
that. Other things being equal, it would obviously be better if I did
not have to take them.
However, there are side-effects that I know about:
Most of the time I feel 'normal' and not 'drugged'. But I do tend
to get sleepy after lunch and sometimes in the evenings - more than I
used to do. Normally, the caffeine in a cup of tea or coffee is enough
to wake me up.
One of the effects of the drugs (mainly the Carbamazepine, I think)
is a reaction in my skin. Initially, this was a red rash all over the
front of my chest and stomach. This disappeared but then I got itchy
bumps on my forearms that would bleed if I scratched them too much.
Again, these have disappeared but the problem has now moved to my
legs.
An odd feature of this itchiness in the skin is that, during the
day, it is quite mild. Then, as soon as I get into bed, it suddenly
gets worse - and it is not caused by bed bugs or fleas in the bed! The
itchiness dies down and then I can get to sleep. Calamine lotion,
applied to the skin, can be helpful.
TIPS
Here are two small ideas which may be helpful to anyone who has
recently developed TGN:
- Because Carbamazepine and Amitriptyline both take several weeks to
build up in the blood stream, one specialist suggested to me that
there was no need to spread the drugs through the day, that they
could all be taken together, perhaps at bed time.