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TRUE STORIES
2005

Please note that treatments vary greatly depending on the individual.  Do not base your treatment decisions solely on the personal stories you read here.  Please keep in mind that the following comments do not represent a scientifically adequate cross-section of patients. Information here may be skewed and faulty, but on the other hand it is the closest thing at the moment to "the voice of the people"....

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Name: Link
Email: linkspooner@yahoo.com
City: Santa Cruz
State: US
Country: US
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
VN:
Treatments: Neurontin, Vicadin
Comments:
Date: 12/30/05

I was finally diagnosed with atypical face pain (I hate the name, it sounds like one is a total wimp and the pain isn't really in the face) about 11 months ago. Actually the doctor I had at the time thought it was a sinus infection, then trigeminal neuralgia, then was clueless...I was referred to a neurologist, had the cats and mri and told I had face pain. Thanks doc I thought. He gave me tegretal (sic) but I had such an adverse reaction I ended up with the neurontin and have been on it since last February. I also tried accupuncture, but it just made the pain worse. The doctors wouldn't prescribe any narcotics (i.e., vicodin) because they didn't want me to get strung out. I told them I didn't care about that,I just wanted the pain to go away. I finally found a PCP who said the magic words..."Quality of LIfe" and perscribed the vicodin as back up to the neurontin. It makes me feel like I have some control over my life to be able to medicate as needed. Some days it is worse and I need more of the vicodin, some days I take less or none. It has pretty much wrecked my life. I can't work and am very depressed. I have been a professional for many years and the fact that I am not productive tears me up. Fortunately my children are grown and don't need me for complete support. I am also a bi-lateral below the knee amputee, but I was able to work through that diability and support my family. This affliction is far worse, it just won't go away. I haven't found any anti-depressants that I can take, the side-effects have been just horrible. They turned me into a complete noodle. I prefer some pain to being a zombie. But, I haven't found any cure for the depression either. In conclusion, the drugs keep me from screaming but the trade off is being a big dope...the depression is the bigger problem now. Any ideas??


Name: Cyndy
Email: cyndyjwatts@hotmail.com
City: Louisville
State: KY
Country: Jefferson
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Drugs: neurontin, tegratol, painkillers, gamma knife, MVD
Comments: hoping to stay painfree since MVD surgery
Date: 12/28/05

One year ago I began having pain in the bottom of my left jaw. I made the trip to the dentist to discover through xrays that my teeth were fine. The pain increased. I went to my medical doctor and he diagnosed TN. He was familiar with it since he had had it for several months. I began a series of drugs: anticonvulsives, painkillers, and steriods. They only helped for a little while. The pain kept coming back only worse. I got on the internet and found the closest gamma knife machine in Lexington Ky about 80 miles from my home in Louisville, KY. There I met Dr. Byron Young and his wonderful staff. I was treated with the gamma knife machine in June. I had relief until the day after Labor Day. I was on the golf course and it hit me so hard I could barely drive home. When I got home I had such bad pain I was in the floor and could not contact any of my family so I called 911. When I got to the hospital they thought I might be having a stroke but I knew I wasn't. I finally communicated what was wrong and they calld in a neurologist. He contacted Dr. Young. I went back down to the UK Medical Clinic and Dr. Young. He gave me the option of another gamma knife or MVD which is major surgery. I had had enough and opted for the surgery. I had it in Sept. It was all the pain of a major surgery but none of the TN pain. I am recovered from the surgery and feel fine. I have a slight numbness in my jaw and sometimes "fingers" of pain or "pins and needles" but nothing like the pain I have had previously. Dr. Young removed 2 blood vessesls from around my trigeminal nerve and placed a sponge around the newve to protect it. I won't say I never worry about it returning because I do. I will never forget the pain and the trauma. So far I am pain free although it hasn't been very long (this is Dec.) and there are no guarantees. I am still very thankful for any time I can get painfree. Anyone living near Lexington KY should visit the UK Medical Center and Dr. Young. He is head of the neurosurgery clinic and very expert in TN. They have a website for more information.


Name: Wendy
Email: Private
City: Laurel
State: MD
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Just dx
Comments: this is horrible
Date: 12/20/05

I have Arnold Chiari Malformation and had brain surgery in 2002. Started noticing facial numbing in 03. Had dental work done in June 05 and my nightmare began. It started on the left side-where my teeth were pulled. It is now on the right side only. It starts with temple pain, goes to the ear then the jaw and behind my ear goes numb and my face feels like it is on fire. My right eye twitches and my already screwy vision gets worse in the right eye. It lasts for days and then goes away for days then back again. I went to ER 2 days ago and got dx. Going to neuro today for 1st time for this. Anyone else with Chiari?


Name: Deana
Email: d-lbarton@zzzip.net
City: Williamstown
State: WV
Country: US
Diagnosis: None
Treatments: Topomax
Comments: No diagnosis after four years
Date: 12/15/05

In August 2001 I had a sharp, intense pain down behind my right eye. The pain spread to my face, neck, and into my right arm. Since then I have not been without pain on the right side of my head. On bad days the right side of my face swells, my right eye swells to a small slit, my whole right side becomes very week, and I have to stay home from my job as a teacher. Over the past four years I have developed numbness and tingling in my right hand and arm, in both feet and legs. The right side of my face, my eye, and neck swells and hurts at will. I have been to Johns Hopkins and presently at Cleveland and so far no diagnosis. They have spoken of a rare cluster headache and neuralgia. Has anyone out there had these symptoms??


Name: "Debbie"
Email: Private
City: HuberHeights
State: Ohio
Country: USA
email_private: Yes
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: vicodin,ibuprofen,nasonex,zyrtec,levaquin
Comments: I love YOU All who are here reading this and i will pray for everyone here every night to get better! :)
Date: 12/13/05

My pain started with a 6 month check up to a new dentist. I was told my 4 silver fillings needed replaced.(i had no pain but trusted the dentist that this was needed for preventative care) After i got home and novacaine wore off i knew something wasnt right. All 4 teeth were aching! Went back and ended up needing root canal on one. Had that done and have been in pain every since with pain in front top and bottom teeth and random teeth all on right side along with pain that shoots up into my temples and head. I havent officially been diagnosed with tn but am on my way to see nuerologist after seeing 4 dentists, endo, family dr.,ent,eye specialist and not having anything show up on emergency room cat scans or blood work .I just want my pain to end like everyone else here. I was a vibrant healthy 32 female always smiling kinda person and now i cry every morning i wake up and all thru the day and am probably experiencing depression now from this but am trying to not let it get too me that bad but it is sooo hard to deal with jaw pain and gland pain and teeth pain and eye pain and headache pain and always having to pop some kind of pain pill to help! I just wanted to share my pain i guess to make myself feel better and hope that people who read my story can also pray for me as i plan to do for them for i sympathize and know how bad this hurts and affects all our lives! I also wish that more money would go into research for this for i feel if we can clone animals and humans , why cant we fix these kinda problems yet??? I dont understand but perhaps god wants me to learn some kinda lesson from all this and actually i am learning lots of lessons! Bless you all and may you all find the strength to make it thru another day and know when your alone i will be thinking of you and so will God!!!


Name: Amanda Rose
Email: amandarose16@optusnet.com.au
City: Islington
State: NSW
Country: Australia
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Epileptic Drugs, pain management
Comments: Please try this!!!!!!!!
Date: 12/07/05

After a Year of agony every few weeks where The pain was so unbarable I would be scratching other parts of my body so i would not concentrate on the pain in my face, I Stumbled on cell salts, This worked well after about 20 tablets every time it hurt, but they stopped making them... any way tried Blackmores Phosphourus compound and if i feel an increase in tics or that dreaded pain comming on i disolve a tablet in my cheek and it is gone....


Name: susan
Email: skohn42@hotmail.com
City: humble
State: tx
Country: usa
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegretol
Comments:
Date: 12/02/05

I am in disbelief about the whole thing. I got my teeth cleaned 5 days before I experienced any pain. I feel like I can make it go away with positive attitude. That does not look like the answer, but I just can't have this. I was told 2 days ago that it might be TNA. I can't believe it. I am in denial I am sure, but I want to beat this. I have so much life ahead. I don't want to be in pain all the time. What really seems to help me is Advil. Will this continue to help me or am I living on falset thoughts. I am confused and scared. Please some one help straighten all this out. There is suppose to be an MRI to rule out tumor or whatever..I am 46 and have been suffering about 1 and a half months. I am scared. I can't sleep or eat right.. Sorry I am going on and on, I just need answers. Thanks


Name: Frank J.
Email: 2312acu@ishp-corp.com
City: Boston
State: MA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: 
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 12/01/05


Name: "AR"
Email: Private
City: Memphis
State: TN
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain, Hemifacial Spasm
Treatments: Self Diagnosis and Treatment
Comments: Found surgery was not necessary.
Date: 11/30/05

Hi, I had facial twitching after a brief illness. I would also notice it after drinking alot. I was told I would have to have surgery to stop it because it lasted for 5 months straight. I did some research and found out that I could possibly be low on potassium. I went to the store and bought 2 large sports drinks called Powerade. The twitching stopped immediately. Some time later, I became exhausted and the twitching started up again. I tried 2 large Gatorades but they didn't work as well [possibly a different amount of potassium in them than the Powerade.] Every time I got the twitching later on, I just drank a sports drink and it stopped. I never had to have the surgery at all. When I mentioned this to members of the Hemifacial Spasm group, they all told me I was a liar, but I asked them to try it and see.


Name: "nana"
Email: Private
City: Hamden
State: CT
Country: US
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: nerve block, pain meds, TN meds, acupuncture
Comments: None of the above worked.
Date: 11/27/05

I have had intense atypical facial pain for the past two years.The symptoms began after a minor car accident. I have been to many doctors and have tried all kinds of medications with no positive results. Recently there was an article in the local paper about the Egoscue method for controling chronic pain. I went to a workshop and then hired the consultant for a six session program (It's an exercise program). I have had some improvement. Check out the website, www.egocue.com and the book by Peter Egoscue, Pain Free: A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain.


Name: Charlotte
Email: charlotte.ryk@lineone.net
City: West Sssex
State:
Country: England
Diagnosis:  Atypical TN
Treatments: Tegratol Dothiopin
Comments:
Date: 11/26/05

I was diagnosed at 23. I believe I have been suffering for many years before that. The number of dentists I have begged antibiotics off is insane! When I was 23 it all came to an head. I never would have believed pain like that was possible. That attack went on for 3 weeks before any relief was felt. I wanted to die. It is the one time in my life I have ever considered killing myself. Had it not been for the support of my husband, I would have. I felt so much guilt over that. I love him so much, but I could see no other escape from the pain. I have a real belief that only other suffers can even begin to understand what TN suffers go through, but the support means more than he could ever know. I see his face when I am having a bad attack and it looks like it's killing him. People don't get the effect this horrible condition has on the people who love you. What I want to tell people is that we all have the strenth to cope with this. It has taken a while, but TN no longer control's my life. You do get there in th end. I still get the pain, but I know I can get through it, and if I can, any-one can.


Name: Jen
Email: Private
City: Lebanon
State: or
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, They dont know
Treatments: Cortisone injection, neurontin, tegretol
Comments:
Date: 11/21/05

They dont know whats wrong with me. I got the first attacks after I had my daughter in 2000, after trying all kinds of pain meds, like vicodin, darvacet ect, the doc decided to inject a shot of coritsone in my super orbital nerve, above my eye. That worked for a little while. Then about 2 years later it struck again. The shot did not work this time after going to the emergency room and being doped up on morophine,and after seeing a neurologist and getting shots in my neck, a few days later it was gone. Last year it struck again at Christmas time. It lasted for about 2 or 3 weeks, I thought I had TN, the neurologist diagnosed me with migranes, and gave me some samples. It seems that Neurontin helps, although it makes me very dizzy and sick to my stomache. I can feel the nerve in my eyebrow and the ones that go back over my head, and also, a tingling pain that goes down the side of my face to my chin, and along my cheek bone and side of my nose. This only happens on the left side of my head. Now I think it is coming back again.Can anyone help. Does this sound like anything any of you have had? Thanks for your time.


Name: "Blondestar"
Email:
Diagnosis: : numb chin/lip
Treatments: Neurnontin
Comments:
Date: 11/19/05

I had jaw surgery 3 years ago, and the mental nerve running across my chin was severed in the process. Now I have chin and lower lip pain daily, and am being treated with Neurontin. I want to be able to get off this, but when I try I cannot stand it. I feel like a rubber band is stretched too tightly under my chin skin, and my lower lip stays really chapped and dry all the time. It is really uncomfortable, and I wondered if anyone knows of something else that could be done surgically to fix this problem.


Name: Chuck
Email: beatlesra1@aol.com
City: Sandusky
State: OH
Country: U.S.A
Diagnosis:  Atypical TN
Treatments: Neurotin, Tegretal
Comments: None of the drugs help, only Vicodin kills the pain
Date: 11/16/05

I'm in a lot of pain and none of the drugs given to me help. Would surgury help? Could this be from dental work? What do other people do? I wish this pain would stop...


Name: Margaret
Email: maggs23_87@yahoo.com
City: Scottsdale
State: AZ
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  NICO
Other:
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 10/29/05

Hey all, I am just wondering if anyone here has been diagnosed with NICO, or "cavitations" If so, what kinds of treatment did you have, and was it successful?? Please let me know...I was recently diagnosed with NICO, and am not sure what to do from here...thanks! Margaret


Name: Rene
Email: reneishere@comcast.net
City: sleepy hollow
State: IL
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia, Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia, Anesthesia Dolorosa
Treatments: ghamma knife MVD nerve blocks radio freq.
Comments:
Date: 10/18/05

Hello, my husband severally beat me in 2003 soon after I had tooth pain, then jaw, did what you all did dentists dr and the like until finnally found out about the monster trigeminial nuralgia, WOW I have now burning spikes of pain jaw ache all on the left(he was right handed) I have left him but not been able to also leave this pain! I have had an MVD that made it worse, nerve blocks help for 2or 3 days but it's something so I was doing it every week for a while, I tried the ghamma knife too, now I am on radio frequency. Had my second yesterday. So we will see. first was two weeks ago and was a little help and I mean little. I am on zoloft now. Of course I am depressed. I have been off work for 4 months and fear I can't go back. I am now a single mom..what will I do. The church has been helping me. I take 800 dollars of pills a month. what happens when work finally fires me for being gone so long? the pain & what if's haunt me. I am slim pretty I have a sense of humor. I want life. I am fighting to get my old life back, or cope with this new version. Does anyone understand?? Rene'


Name: " Plushkanyc"
Email: plushkanyc@comcast.net
City: Jersey City
State: NJ
Country:
Diagnosis:
Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Drugs
Comments:
Date: 10/17/05

One day a pvc pipe fell from a building and hit me on my face. Since then its been a downward spiral. At the time, I was already enrolled to start law school, which I did, but now I wish I hadn't. How did I know that the school didn't provide prescription drug insurance and that neurotin/gabapentin costs nearly $500/month at my dose (3600mgs a day)? Anyway, the drugs stopped working. My neurologist basically dropped me saying he didn't know what else to do for me (after trying 1 drug!) I'm on Trileptal now (free samples for a month, then I don't know what to do) but it isn't working either. The semester is halfway over and I'm so far behind. It hurts so bad sometimes there seems like there is only one way out, and I know everyone reading this understands that feeling. I just want someone to take the pain away!!!!!!!!!!!I would love to hear how anyone has been able to successfully cope with the pain and the additional frustration of no one helping you find a solution. Also, any non-drug treatments that have worked would be good to know about. Good luck to everyone and hang in there!


Name: "dad's kid"
Email: nix_on_fire@yahoo.com
City: cabanatuan city
State:
Country: philippines
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: alternative lifestyle, doloneurobion, tegretol
Comments: my dad's story
Date: 10/11/05

I've read the stories here, and most of them are first hand accounts of trigeminal neuralgia. Actually, It's my dad who's suffering from TN. We knew about his TN about 5 or 6 years ago. My dad is a development worker for third world countries. He started community development in the poorest of countries in 4 continents. Some of the places that he worked in are Nicaragua, Bolivia, Haiti, South Africa, Congo, Zambia, Philippines, US and Dominican Republic among others. I can say that he is a fighter, because he still continues to help fight poverty in these countries while at the same time fighting a personal battle with TN. The doctor told us that TN is 30 times more painful than a regular toothache and it is considered one of the most painful condition that a person can experience. My dad resorted to personal chakra healing, alternative medicine, accupuncture, yoga, local plant extracts, teas, regular exercise, healthy diet and virgin coconut oil. However despite all this, he still have seasons of pain. Sometimes my dad won't eat nor get up from bed for days. We think that TN is also a stress-related ailment because he always experience waves of attacks after every field visit to Africa and the Americas. My dad will never stop his fights though. I think that his fight against poverty is what drives him to fight his personal struggles. We still feel helpless when he has attacks... but now, me and my siblings do not fear because we have seen great courage from our dad in times of adversity. We have seen great devotion, love and passion from him. I hope that all TN sufferers will have families to support them and a cause to fight for. Tatay (dad) I love you.


Name: Louise
Email: Lu8229@aol.com
City: Stamford
State: Ct
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia
Treatments: Carbamazepine 100mg...5 times a day
Comments: Drug interactions
Date: 10/10/05

After having this condition for 20 years, and having been to countless physicians, I did some research when I got my computer and found my answer myself. I had my doctor prescribe carba- mazepine (generic Tegretol. This was like a miracle to me, but now, after a few years I am having monstrous night terrors, which may be, according to a Psychiatrist, an interaction between Zoloft and Carbamazepine. Even though I hadn't taken any of either med this weekend I had two terrible nightmares....now I'm so afraid to go to sleep at night! I need both those meds, especially the carbamazepine as the pain and shock of an "attack" of Neuralgia (it concentrates in my right ear), is too much to bear. Any one who can tell me how to avoid the nightmares, or if any other med will do as well as the Carbamazepine? Louise Bove...I am 76 years old.


Name: Barbara
Email: bsacohen@comcast.net
City: Hamden
State: CT
Country: US
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: acupuncture, chiropractor, mouth splint, seizure meds,
Comments: I'd like to know if anyone has tried Zonegran and had any results
Date: 10/09/05

I have had AFP for almost two years. The pain seems to get worse as the day goes by. I have tried a variety of doctors, chiropractors, PT's, acupuncture and meds with little results. Right now I am on Zonegran and so far it hasn't helped. However, I am not on the max dose yet. All of the other seizure meds have upset my stomach. I am about to try the Egoscue method of exercise that is supposed to alleviate chronic pain. I'd be happy if I just felt a little better. I'd like to know if anyone has had any luck wiht any kind of treatment. Even painkillers don't seem to help.


Name: ABBIE
Email: gcunha4520@bellsouth.net
City: Margate
State: fl
Country: us
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: NEURONTIN, PAMELOR, OXYCONTIN
Comments: doing a little better
Date: 10/07/05

I just wanted to correct Neurocare Associates not ass. That was a typo mistake. I read what I wrote and had to correct it because it didn't sound to good. I read these stories once a week and I know how everyone feels. I call my pain the "monster" and he just doesn't want to leave my face. He lets me know that he's still there. The break through pain scares me, but then it goes away. Up until a year ago, it was constant and I had thoughts of suicide too. Who wants to live in pain the rest of their lives. There's allot of people out there that do. God bless them all, abbie


Name: Tina
Email: versetmb@yahoo.com
City: Daytona beach
State: FL
Country: U.S.A.
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain, Anesthesia Dolorosa
Treatments: allot of med a morphine drip a pens unit implant surgery
Comments:
Date: 10/05/05

i have told my story before here i am in the years 2000 and 2002. i am the first to have a pens implanted for my facial pain. since i have told my story about my pens unit others have decided to follow my foot steps. kimberly rae hi i know you are reading this and i am truely happy and thankful you are doing so well with your pens i DO hope you and the others are finaly free forever of this ugly monster! . at any rate i am here to tell people that when no meds work and gamma or m.v.d. is not an option that people should inquire about a pens unit. they work beyond brilliantly exellent. and if anyone would like to learn about them they may go to www.opuslinks.com . my story isnt there but there is a few really awesome ones with happy endings . also some links with info and helpful suggestions. also to find people in the same boat braintalk.org is good to meet others and post questions and messages when you feel alone it is allot worse then knowing that you are not alone. and most of you are not alone and you will find that out when you vist some of the sites i mentioned. i pray more of you find a path to freedom and painfree living, i hope the pens unit will one day be accepted as easy as all the meds doc put us on. it seems a shame to have to be on so much drugs and the affects of it on ones body and mind,... when a pens unit is better . i wish it was not used as a last resort and more people could get one. what a dream that is. peace and love always and olny.


Name: "Cuencana"
Email: Private
City: Cuenca
State:
Country: Ecuador
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Vitamin B Injections
Comments: It is helping
Date: 09/18/05

In June 2005 my husband and I were traveling in Europe when all of a sudden I had this terrible pain in my jaw. I could hardly stand the pain. But it lasted only a few minutes and then I was okay. The following months I would have an attack about once a week and then a week ago, I started to have an attack every few minutes. The pain was so severe that I agreed to go to the dentist thinking that maybe a tooth had gone bad. The dentist couldn't find anything wrong and suggested that I had TN and prescribed vitamin B injections. I started the injections and at this writing they seem to be easing. I appreciate reading the stories submitted because I know now that mine is not an isolated case. The pain is horrible and I hope my story will help someone.


Name: ABBIE
Email: gcunha4520@bellsouth.net
City: Margate
State: fl
Country: united states
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
VN:
Treatments: NEURONTIN, PAMELOR, OXYCONTIN
Comments: UNDER CONTROL MOST OF THE TIME
Date: 09/12/05

Just a brief update. I first posted in Jan of 2003 and still to this today, I have undiagnosed facial pain. All though with the meds that I'm on, it's better controlled. I'm back to work, allthough, its part time and I still get breakthrough pain. I must say that I'm doing much better. I went to see a neurosurgeon up at the Sands in gainesville, fl whom said that I was inoperable. Dr. Martin Lesser of the neurocare association in Tamarac, fl chosed to treat me. I hate being on these meds, but they're the only thing giving me relief to get back to functioning as a human being. I guess this facial pain will be with me till death due us part. If you're in need of help and don't know where to turn, email me and I can give you some advice. Allot of doctors out there can be very noncompassionate and I've been through a dozen and that's no lie. Contact me if you need someone to talk to. I don't have TN either. God bless, abbie taylor cunha


Name: Irene
Email: aimstudio@yahoo.com
City:
State:
Country: Norway
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: cranial sacral massage
Comments:
Date: 09/09/05

I am an American 52 yr old woman living in Norway. My pain started 9 months ago when I felt an acute toothache feeling on the left side of my face after drinking or eating hot or cold foods, going for a walk in the cool Norwegian weather or taking a warm shower. About ten minutes after I had done these things I got the "attack" which is excruciating to say the least. Have been to dentist and doctor and read up on TN through the internet and we concluded that I have TN. I am a fan of the Alternative style of living and I meditate everyday for about an hour and take care of myself by not being a part of stressful situations, thinking positive and trying to get my basic 4 diet and exercise. I refuse to start on medicines. My face felt like I had a dried out mud pack on but that has gone away and my "attacks" have gone down from twice a day to twice a week. Now the cool weather is arriving in Norway and I have to get a wool mask-skarf made so I can get out to get in my daily walk - I wonder how this winter will be for me. Anyone have any ideas on masks, skarfs and also more to tell about Alternative ways of life for a TN sufferer?


Name: Lorre
Email: faxclanmom@aol.com
City: Phoenix
Diagnosis:
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 09/05/05


Name: Karen
Email: kdneary@verizon.net
City: Hamlin
State: pa
Country: usa
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: MVD GAMMA MEDS
Comments: xxxxxxxx
Date: 08/31/05

Hi, I am 53 yrs. old, I have had tn for 10 yrs. Had MVD. in 1992, worked for 18 months back came the pain. GKRS it did not do a thing. Now I had to increased meds to an uncomfortable level. Sound like anyone you know ? My question to you is about my insurance company. They do not want to pay in net work benefits for a Neurologist that can help me that is out of state because they feel that a neurologist in my rural area can help me. I know this is not the so because I have contacted them and they say so. Except one... He feels doing a nerve block will cure me ? What is your opinion on nerve blocks and getting the insurance to pay. sincerely, Please Help,


Name: "Susie J"
Email: spjack@execpc.com
City: West Bend
State: WI
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: trileptal 450 mg bid Baclofen 10 mg qid
Comments: I would love to hear from somebody with the same two branches of the trigeminal affected
Date: 08/23/05

I was diagnosed in Feb. with TN and the V1 and V2 branches are affected. My pain is mainly in my rt. eye and along my rt. nose. I was pretty stable on the tripleptal (not pain free0 but was having muscle spasms in the morning so the trileptal was cut down and baclofen added. My days are not stable. Mornings are the worse, when I wake up (anytime after 5am)I have muscle spasms and shocks. The muscle spasms are better on the baclofen but the shocks were better controlled with the higher dose of trileptal. So, my med regime is in question. My evenings are getting worse and the shocks more frequent and lasting longer - about the time my medication is due. The baclofen doesn't seem to help. Have I had a long enough period to evaluate medication or should I consider my surgery options now. I have read that the earlier the better. I am 64 years old. I believe we are such a minority that most neurologists have little experience with this malady - at least in my area. This situation is pretty surreal since I can't remember the last aspirin I took and now I am focused all day on taking pills and I fall asleep if I sit down. I read letters from TN patients and they are all different. Anybody out there like me??? Susie


Name: Kelly-ann
Email: Kelly_ann1979_25@hotmail.co.uk
City:
State:
Country: England
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: Anti-convulsants TRA's, SSRI's, TENS, Accupuncture, Splint, Ultra Sound,
Comments: HELP ME FIND MY CURE
Date: 08/21/05

The beginning was 5 years ago I don't know how I havn't ended it all for good, I still feel suicidal at times I had a wisdom tooth removed and it numbed my face for three months...and them wam, headaches and this awful pain in my left jaw, the nerve pain. It was horrible, I was told I had a maloclusive jaw and neuralgia, given a brace to straighten my teeth (lots more agony) and anti-depressants after I told my consultant that i was goinf to kill myself if he didn't do something to help me. Loads of drugs didn't work and he said "there is nothing that can be done for you". I found another consultant who gave me a splint and TRA's (only Carbemazepine really helped but gave me intolerable headaches). I now take oxcarbemazepine and the side effects are subsiding a bit (headaches). The splint has helped with the headaches but the nerve pain is still there, and i am not looking forward to the winter where it gets worse. I am determined to find a cure, i have been told by a neurosurgeon that it is not even atypical trigeminal neuralgia, it is atypical facial pain, however, this is subjective and i want a cure, i think my surgical options are either orthognathic surgery to correct the alignment which may help with the nerve pain, or any surgery that is given for TN ( I know surgery is not very successful with ATN) Does anyone know of anyone, anything that may help me, surely someone must have had these two conditions at the same time???????? oh yes and the nerve pain goes into my teeth and into the bones in my jaw please help me


Name: Melissa
Email: smissyjo@sbcglobal.net
City: Camby
State: in
Country: usa
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tripleptal
Comments:
Date: 08/17/05

I was just diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia yesterday. I have been having attacks since last week. I was not sure where to turn to - the dentist or the Dr. I went to the dentist, no problems with teeth. Went to the Dr., who though it might be TN, then referred me to a neurologist. I was having over 100 atacks per day for 5 days, couldn't eat, was afraid to move my mouth, afraid to touch my face, was afraid to talk. The most frustrating thing was not being able to find out what triggered the attacks. I was lucky to get into a Neurologist the next day, who knew right off the bat what was wrong. She put me on Trileptal and told me I should get immediate relief. I took one and the attacks started to slow down. By the evening I thought that they were gone! I thought to soon, and one came on...I cried. I didn't think it was ever going to go away. I had a few more during the night, when I woke up I didn't have any. I have only had 2 today. I am still afraid to touch my face, or even brush my teeth. I have an MRI next week to see if anything is going on. From reading your stories, I am afraid the pain is going to start coming back, and I don't know if I can deal with that. I don't like the effects of the Tripletal, it makes me very dizzy, extremely tired, my joints hurt and cannot think straight. I am a single parent of 3 children.


Name: Linda
Email: Private
City: LEYLAND
State:
Country: England
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol,Gabapentin,Pregabalin(lyrica)
Comments:
Date: 08/10/05

I have suffered off and on for the last 8 years with TN. At first dentist extracted 2 teeth which were perfectly sound then suggested gum shield to be used whilst sleeping. Nothing worked and he told me he could do no more! Went to doctor and he advised me to return to dentist. Back to dentist then back to doctors. At last saw a consultant who thought it might be part of a root left in my jaw when a tooth was extracted. All this time in extreme pain and as I worked in a call centre using a headset all day was in agony. Went to hospital and had root removed under local anaesthetic by the surgeon drilling into my jaw. The only relief was the numbness from the anaesthetic. At last prescribed Tegretol which gave immediate relief but pain eventually returned and I had some side effects - lethargy etc. Then prescribed Gabapentin and after a few months pain disappeared only to return after a few months. I now seem to have a few months free of pain and then it returns for no apparent reason. I still see the consultant periodically and I asked him a few weeeks ago if there was any new medication to try as the pain had returned and gabapentin was not working. He has now prescribed Pregabalin (Lyrica) 75mg twice a day and EUREKA it has worked. Keeping my fingers crossed!!!


Name: elaine
Email: elaine_colton@yahoo.co.uk
City: Halifax
State:
Country: England
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol plus tried numerous alternative treatments
Comments:
Date: 08/08/05

I've suffered from Trigeminal Neuralgia for over 30 years since my early twenties. Sometimes the pain has been so bad that I've spent all night sitting up unable to get my head down onto a pillow. Tegretol has been some help but makes me whoozy and groggy. Alexander Technique has been good to some extent too as I've always thought there might be a link with posture. I really think I might have found a "cure" that might really work this time. I've had flat feet since being a young child. The physiotherapist I saw a couple of years ago to sort out knee damage following skiing had me wear special insoles in my shoes. I now notice that if I don't wear them the TN returns. If I wear them I am free from the TN. Obviously this might just be a coincidence but it makes very simple sense to me. The physio made the very obvious connection between my flat feet and subsequent strain on the knees and back. I've always noticed that my back "goes to pieces" prior to a TN bout, so I really think this could be the answer for me. I wish I had made the connection years ago.


Name: Kristin
Email: KRISTI6789@AOL.com
City: Los Angeles
State: CA
Country: U.S.A.
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: gabapentin
Comments:
Date: 08/02/05

i am 19 years old and almost one year ago to the day i was hanging out at a friends house with a large group of people, one of the kids there was very drunk and thought it would be funny to pick me up and put me over his shoulders. being as drunk as he was he lost his balance and ended up dropping me on my head onto a cement tiled floor. i had concussion and woke up to find everyone hovering over me asking if i was ok. i popped right back up only feeling throbbing pain on the left side of my head near my temple. for the next month i suffered dizzy attacks that would come every few days, and i would sometimes get bad headaches. i went to europe and one day i got a dizzy attack that didnt end up going away for about two months. that was the beginning of my symptoms - it went from being dizzy all the time, to feeling numbness in my arms and legs, to having constant migraines, and then i was diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia. i would be walking down the street and it would feel like lightning just striked my temple. i was so scared it was something in my brain so i made an appointment with a neurologist near my college and before i even saw him i read a pamphlet about the condition and went into the appointment basically knowing what my problem was... and i was right. that was about 10 months ago and i am still strongly dependent on my medication to help ease the pain - i am taking neurontin, or gabapentin (same thing im pretty sure), so basically, i am pretty much positive it was brought upon the fact that this drunk idiot decided to pick me up and drop me on my head, and the saddest part was the next morning when i came limping up to him and telling him what he did he claimed he didnt remember and he would believe me... he only believed me when all my other friends had to tell him what happened.


Name: Sandy
Email: Private
City: Leesburg
State: Fl
Country: US
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol 200 mg.
Comments:
Date: 07/27/05

Have had Trigeminal Neuralgia for 5 1/2 years now. Unfortunately I am one of the unlucky ones that has had bouts with this at intervals as this conditions seems to do with most people. I am and have been in pain this time for a little over a month. Talking, eating, brushing teeth, cool air, just a slight touch on the right side of my face brings me out of my chair screaming....this is the worst thing that I've had to deal with in my entire life. The electrical shock that comes through my face is unbearable, keeps me in a very nervous state at all times not knowing when another "jolt" will occur, plus the depression. I take Tegretol 200 mg. and have taken 1400 mg. per day for six months without any relief. It finally sent away for several months, but then without notice, "pow", it's back. My friend had TN and had a dream showing a message on a billboard saying to take old fashion BC Powder (powder form, not pills). Her husband immediately went to the 24 hour drug store and bought the BC Powder for her. She took it and was without pain in about 20 minutes. When back to her doctor, he asked her how her pain was. She said that she didn't have any pain. He wanted to know what she had done to relieve the pain....she told him about the BC. Believe it or not, his comment was, "that doesn't surprice me". She was furious. He had given her medication costing $10 per pill. Apparently according to him, BC has an ingredient that does help TN. I can't say that it will help everyone, but it's worth a try. I take vitamin B-12 and Magnesium which was recommended by the local health food store. With the severe pain that I'm constantly in, I'll try anything. The pain does seem to subside after taking the BC Powder but it comes back. Just a little relief does wonders. I'm considering having surgery. My doctor does not like to do the surgery....I go back to him on August 28 so will see what he says about going on with the surgery then. I just can't go on living with this constant pain. Cleansing my face, putting on my make-up, brushing my teeth, talking, eating....all these things are taken for granite by others but is a painful chore each and every day for me and others with TN. People actually think you're "faking" because you look perfectly healthy. Don't know if any of this info will help anyone, but it's worth a try. Good Luck!


Name: "mystery tale"
Email: theluv4bball@aol.com
City: roanoke
State: va
Country: usa
Diagnosis: possible melkerson rosenthal syndrome and pressure facial angioadema
Treatments: multipul narcotics and hospitalizations
Comments: this was very hard on my family
Date: 07/26/05

i am a 14 year old female and thuis horrible nightmare started May 18,2004. this was the day i got my braces put on. that night my face started swelling very little. 2 months went by, now it is the night of July 15, 2004. i am sitting in the middle of the bed crying. my face is hug and very painful. nothing can touch my face not even a strand of hair. My mother and grandmother take me to my doctor at the University of Virginia (UVA). as soon as he walks in he tells me i look like a monster her also thought he had the wrong room. hours later i was admitted in the main hospital. they started me on a few pain medications and mild steriods. after bout 3 days these meds. werent working. the doctors had called multiple doctors from other departments in on my case. my the end of the week i was in so much pain that the doctors had me on 10 different narcotics and a moraphine pump. my this time they told my momther that i was considered a legal drug addicts. after a month of the main hospital i was transfered to the childrens rehab called the Kulgy House (KCRC). i was there for about 2 or 3 more weeks with no improvement. there was nothing more that the doctors could do so they sent me home with all this medication. i didnt get any better until December or 2004. once again the second week on December i was back at UVA. but this time the doctors thought that i was going to die and i was ready to die. i had made peace and couldnt stand the pain any longer. i was there until Janurary of 2005. with no progress. i came home in the middle of the month. by this time i had to withdraw from the private school i was going to and had to become home schooled. it is now 7/25/05 and i am completely better right now. but the thing about this condition is that it does come back at anytime and each time in worse. any episode can become permanent. so please stay encouraged and God Bless.


Name: Missy
Email: Mmiss1984@aol.com
City: Ellisville
State: MS
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Neurontin 800 mg 5 times daily
Comments: diagnosed in 1998
Date: 07/20/05

My name is Kathy. Of course the e-mail address is that of a family member. Please don't be confused by the names. I first want to say how grateful I feel to have found another living person who can actually say "yes, I know what it feels like". I am not able to work anymore, it has been two years. My right hand is numb most of the time and it just became impossible for me to perform my duties as a legal secretary/power typist. So, now I am not only in constant pain, I am immobilized by fear. "Fear" I could say some very bad things about that word. Again, I am like a kid in a candy store to have found someone to talk to. Please excuse my rambling. I have had all of this pain bottled up inside of me for 7 fricking years. I will be 50 years old July 29th. I have held a full time job since I was 14, that is until 2 years ago. I have been divorced for 16 years and have two glorious sons. Most assuredly sent from God especially for me. If anyone had told me at any point that I would be where I am today, I would have fought. I fought to learn a skill after being married and divorced with a child by age 19. I sucked it up and said let's go. From that moment on I was proud and determined to keep a smile on my face and my head held high. One of the most painfull aspects to all of this is my boys. They have always been so proud of me and my courage to keep going. My oldest, who is 32, said to me just a few years back that he knew I would always be able to get a job even if physical inabilities kept me from performing what I knew. For that he was very proud. I hate for them to be worried about me now in the way they are. They have never seen me depressed for longer than the time PMS lasts. I don't know if they realize it, but I have given up. I am so tired and now have no idea what the future has in store for me. Joey, my 32 year old, said to me just 2 weeks ago "Mama, I know you are tired and the struggle is hard, just don't give up. Things will get better, I promise". Spoken like the good son he is. Sean, my 22 year old, is equally caring, but does not carry the burden like Joey. If Sean is concerned about me he will drive over to check on me. Today, things got better. I found you guys. I'm sure you have all experienced the same financial burden of the Neurontin as I, although I am now on a help program. The stress involved in trying to explain to someone why I would rather die than live with no medication, even if it did cost $500 per month for a number of years. I can live with joint pain caused by reumatic fever ( don't think that is spelled correctly and I don't even care). Never thought I would say that. I always wanted my own grocery list with correct spelling. As you all know, this is so different. If I had to describe right now my symptoms this would be the list: Imagine your finger held inside a wall socket and the electricity shooting straight into the right side of my face; a million tiny bugs swarming at once and you can't get them off; no skin and cold are causing super sensitive pain; biting the inside of my mouth so hard over and over until it looks like hamburger meat and last but not least, biting all the way through the tip or right side of my tongue. I have to go now, but hope to hear from someone. Kathy


Name: Sophie
Email: lhummer@csonline.net
City: Erie
State: PA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia, Atypical TN, Atypical Facial Pain, Anesthesia Dolorosa
Treatments: 3 failed MVD's; 2 Glycerol Rhizotomies; Numerous other conventional procedures.
Comments: I'm in a 10' hole with a 3' rope!
Date: 07/17/05

I've been there and done that is usually the conversation with consultants. I've had 11 craniel/facial surgeries in 8 years and now live in horrendous, full time pain, the bonus of AD (the all time nightmare)as well as dental pain. I've had 3 failed MVD's including 2 with the famous Dr. Peter Jannetta. I've been in two different pain clinics a year each. I've had over 50 injuections in my head, face, mouth etc. I've had enough counseling to get my own degree. I'm running out of medication experiments and I'm just too far gone for help. My pain is 24/7 and ranges from a 5 -10 daily. NOTHING, not even the strongest pain meds help ease the pain. My teeth have electrical shocks in them that have actually thrown me off the bed during the night. There is just nothing left for them to try and each surgery, according to the doctors, is less successful that the prior. Each MVD was farther up my head and each found more entwinments. The AD is a killer pain and can't be understood by anyone who has not experienced it. It's like standing in a pool of water and sticking your tongue into a socket. The surface is so numb that I have had 3 3rd degree burns on my face from a curling iron, me not paying attention, until it was smoking and turning black. Yet the severe pain is so deep it's electrical in the nerve. Nothing topical or internal phases it and so it is a beast to be burdened with. I would love to write with others like me. Anyone who might have a suggestion. Or just someone who wants to make an internet friend to chat with. I lost my 25 years banking job over this and have been suffering for over 15 years now. I was forced on disability for about 9 years now. I've lost life as I knew it, my body is shot, my weight is feeding tube size, my short term memory has been affected from the surgeries, my depression is an ongoing mess where I will probably never be able to be off from an antidepressent. I'm in the cycle of pain causes depression. Depression increases the pain and so on goes the wheel I can't get off from. I am fortunate thought. I inherited free and clear a sense of humor and a high pain tolerance. Living with this is what we make of it and I refuse to let it consume me any more than I can control. Sophie


Name: Amy
Email: amy.r.warsinsky@lmco.com
City: Herndon
State: VA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 07/07/05

This is an update to a previous story I left several years ago. My name then was Amy Lilly. Since my initial combat with TN (2001) I have visited a dentist for a regular visit to fill a cavity. In the process I was sure to tell the dentist I wanted no needles of novacaine in my face since I was convinced that is what started my problem. After he took a few xrays he found that the issue had nothing to do with TN. There was a stablizing pin placed in my tooth several years prior to provide support for a weak tooth, and that pin had shifted and was sitting right on the nerve of my tooth. In addition the filling had cracked and leaked, causing infection. Once a root canal was done on that tooth to remove the pin and all decay, my problems were solved. Unfortunately all dentists and specialists before did not pick up on this problem, I have been pain free for almost five years. Please be sure to visit a dentist and have extensive xrays taken in order to rule out any problems with cracked or infected teeth. I wish you all the best in curing your disease.


Name: "wags4u"
Email: private
City: fair oaks
State: ca
Country: usa
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain, NICO
Other: reaction to tmj implant
Treatments: P.T.,Biofeedback, acunpunture,splints,surgery
Comments: not one treatments helped
Date: 07/01/05

In 1981 I recived a tetanus shot and had a severe reaction and nearly died. After the Benadryl, adrenline and cortasone the hives disappeared, my breathing returned to normal so did my tight chest and swollen throat. But I had side affects that the doctor said would last 1 to 2 months. Which were headaches,neck,shoulder and joint aches all on my right side. He put me on Indocin, 20 tylenol #3 and muscle relaxants. 1 month later with no improvements I went to have some dental work done. While i was having my third molar extracted there was trauma to my tmj it took them ! year to find thus out Four years later I had a teflon tmj implant that fragmented and caused giant cell reaction and bone loss also four more surgerys with rib graft Today I am still a mess and on strong pain medicine


Name: kelly
Email: lighthousegal46@yahoo.com
City: lafargeville
State: NY
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: med's
Comments: this is all new to me.
Date: 06/26/05

This all started about 3 weeks ago, I was on our houseboat, and my teeth started hurting not lasting along time, I didn't pay much attention to the matter, and last Saturday night in the middle of the night about 2 am I jumped up out of bed and thought my world was coming to a end , the pain was something that didn't stop and was unbearable, I said to my husband of 2 months, there is something wrong, I'm the strong one in the family so there is nothing ever the wrong with me, I told him I can't stand the pain he said oh , it's your tooth go back to bed, I went into the living room of our boat, and clapped, with the pain, I got up and got the car keys and drive to my house that is only a few mins away, first thing I did was look for tylenol I'm not a med person, so I don't have alot of this stuff around and got tooth gel and put it on my teeth, and then put cool clothes on my face, time went on and I was so sleepy with the pain I fell back to sleep, my husband called me and said what are you doing at home , if that where you are, I said silly that's where you called me, I feel better now so I went back to our boat, it is now father's day and had alot of friends and family to the boat for a cookout, during the day everyone kept on saying are you ok, your eyes and lip look funny , I said I feel sleepy that's all, my sister got really concerned, and said you go and get checked out I told her I would in a few days, if I didn't feel better, not the one to go to the doctor's for nothing, well it was less then one hour after everyone left, I lose it, I couldn't see, speak or anything, I passed out with the pain, and my husband and stepdaughter that is a nurse called 911 , it was min's for the ambulance arrived, I had high high blood pressure to the point they didn't move the ambulance for awhile, well here we go to the hospital, blood work, cat scan, and then they admitted me for 4 days, now MRI and more blood work and then I got my verdit that I had trigeminal Neuralgia, well never heard of it , but now I'm on med's and going to see a neuro on tuesday, let you know how things work out....kel


Name: Vince
Email: vdinenna@covad.net
City: West Norriton
State: PA
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegratol
Comments:
Date: 06/21/05

Hi, It's sad to see I'm not alone, because I won't wish this on anyone. One thing I hae noticed from reading your stories is that there isn't too much mention on the triggers of TN. Mine is simple- cold air. When I a cold breeze or air conditioning is on, I slowly notice the pain start. Usually, it's just a twing, but if I ignore it and grows day by day. So bad sometimes that I double over and can't move, because I'll be sick. That doesn't happen anymore, because I know what I have and take steps to prevent it. I live in a cold climate, but it get the TN headaches more in the summer, because if I even sweat a tiny bit, as soon as I get into AC I can feel the sensitivity begin. (I feel it right now in fact.) Tegratol and heat pad have been the most help. I take 1/2 of a 100 mg tablet and then half that the following day. If it is real bad, I'll take 100mg and 25mg the folowing day. I was also told about radio theropy, but have not looked into this yet. Hope this helps someone. Vince


Name: Kathy
Email: kathy6410@yahoo.com
City: Canby
State: Or
Country: United States
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Sod)Lamictal(Lamotrigine) - Lioresal (Baclofen) I am on a lot of medicine as I have inner ear problems as well as fibromyalgia and the things that come with it:chronic fatigue,IBS,GERD,and I wouldn't be surprised if TN wasn't from that too!!??
Date: 06/17/05

I have a new problem,I have had it since 5/19/05 and it keeps changing. I wanted to know if anyone here knows about it-or had someone suffering like this. It is one my left side,where as TN has always been right side (also Migraines-when I had them) and other pain. I also have TMJ-TMD. The thing I have now keeps changing,last night scared me. I keep having a pain in my scalp about 1/2 way down (left) and it has felt like a ice pick being driven through to my brain. Last night it was about the size of a silver $ and "fingers" down to forehead and down to nape of neck (where the original pain started-and still hurts) It hurts-tingles-feels numb-and then "cold",not to the touch,that is just how it feels. My Dr. (of course isn't in this week) I have been to 2 times in the past 4 weeks. At first I thought it was because I stopped taking Baclofen(with Dr's. instrustions) and got horrible roaring in my ears (I have tinnitis all the time with inner ear problems) but,this was roaring. It stopped about 4 days after I started taking Baclofen 6 a day,not 3 a day. But the Pain has changed and still here. I also called my neurogist ,nurses and asked if this was TN or nerve pain also. They called back with a prescription (that I said no to as it would interfer with my fluid in my ear- ni one know about inner ear,so they didn't believe me) anyway I asked again 2 times if it was nurves-finally they said the neuroligist said she didn't know what it was-I can't believe she just wanted to give me pills and not find out what is wrong. Sound familar to anyone?? Please excuss the spelling I'm in a lot of pain.--

I,of course,didn't know what was wrong with me. My regular Dr. (after several visits) sent me to the neurolgy dept. after 2 drs. I finaly felt o.k.about one and she has been trying to help me for about 6 or more years now(how time flys!). Any way I have tried a lot of medicine and failed the 3 I'm on now seem o.k.,but they are costing so much,I wanted to stop some of them. So far,not a good idea,got into more trouble. I think of all the things the Botox has been the best. The problem is that my body knows when it needs the "fix" and I get more TN problems. I hate that no one has come up with medicine for TN--we have to take medicines made for so many other things--no wonder some of them don't work. I don't know if any thing I've written will help anyone..I am just having a new problem,that I wrote about in comments and I need your help (can't seem to get medical help now) and see if anyone out there knows what it could be. I am glad for this site and know that we are not alone!!


Name: Sunshyn
Email: audry@ec.rr.com
City:
State:
Country:
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Tegretol, Valium, & Darvocet....4 now
Comments: I would not ever wish this even on my worst enemy!!
Date: 06/09/05

Hi, my name is Sunshyn and I am 37 yrs old. My Husband and I have been married now for 20 yrs. We also have a son whom is now 12 yrs old! This is now June 9th 2005. I can not remember what day this month it was, but I woke up one morning, and I don't know why, but my right jaw was hurting me. Well, it wasn't really a hurt...more like a bad tooth ache, except without the teeth! (Yes I have dentures) Well, I didn't think anything about it. I just figured that it would go away just as fast as it came on. Two weeks went by and I was still hurting. At this time, it hurt me to open and close my mouth, swallow my drink, talk, laugh, yell, yawn, basically anything I did, it hurt no matter what. By this time I had also had about two or three sharp stabbing, or shooting pains that came and went,,never had any more....no big deal , right? Well, I figured that seeing how it was my jaw and that my jaw was part of my mouth, that I would go to the Dentist. So I made me an appointment. Went into the room and told him everything that was going on. I even told him that it was NOT my Dentures and it was NOT my gums that was hurting me. Wel, never the less I took my Dentures out and he started putting his fingers in my mouth feeling around. Finally he put his finger in one certain place and pushed in real hard and I jumped!...After he was done with his fingers in my mouth, I kept showing him where on the outside of my jaw where about it hurt..he put his finger on my jaw up high and I had turned my head to the left, and all of a sudden I jerked my head over to the right and the side of my face hit his finger! Man did I jump!! All this time in the room he never did take any x-rays of my mouth or jaw! Instead he tells me to go home, take the muscle relaxer that he was ging to give me and take some Ibprophen for pain...he also wanted me to put a warm compress on my face over my jaw. He also told me that if I wasn't doing any beter within two or three days to let him know and he would reer me over to an oral surgeon. Oh, he also told me that he thought that it was in my joint area! While I was in the room, he also picked up my OLD x-rays and was looking at them....Right!!! Like my OLD x-rays are going to tell him anything!!! Well, I came home and did as he told me to do. Nothing worked! I called them and I asked them if they would please let me have something for the pain...Do you know he wouldn't give me anything??? Well, needless to say I got more than just a little P'od..and I hung up on them! I then called my family Dr and told them what all was going on with me. They set it up for me to have x-rays done. The day came, I went in and had my x-rays done..then that afternoon I went to my Dr to find out the results etc...Ok, the Dr comes in the room and we have a long talk. She examines my face throast etc.. real good and found nothing wrong. She than sat down and began asking me a bunch of questions! (At least she didnt do it with her fingers in my mouth!!!) my answer to almost all of her questions was a simple "no" You know, questions like..do you have any numbness in your jaw etc.... I told her about it hurting me any time I did anything with my mouth at all, including talking etc.... She could tell that I was really hurting! She thought at first that it was tmj, so she gave me a heavy duty muscle relaxer and some percocet for the pain. I can home and started taking my medicine and everything was fine at first...then I woke up one night and found that the percocet wasn't helping my pain any more....I also noticed that it started giving me really bad headaches, so I was told to stop them. Well by this time I was now having really bad sharp stabbing shooting like pains in my right jaw and it felt like it was going into my ear and they kept coming and going..then it got even worse and the aching that felt like a tooth ache decided it would join it also..and they was steady... that never did go away! Well the Dr then put me on Valium & Tegretol and they said it would help with the pain. Well I talked to the pharmacy and they told me that the Tegretol wouldn't do a thing at all for my pain!! Now I am really upset to say the least!! I called the Dr back and I told them what the pharmacy had told me! Out of the blue I broke into tears and I told them that I had been hurting for two weeks straight and that I was really tired of it and that I couldn't tqke this no more and that I HAD to have something for the pain!!! She then prescribed Darvocet for the pain. Well, the very first night of me taking the meds all of a sudden my sharp pains and aching stopped completely!!! Now I know it wasn't the meds cause they hadn't had enough time to get into my system...so I am thinking that it is just my jaw....but... I'm STILL hurting!!!! Still, opening and closing my mouth, talking, eating, laughing, etc.... all of it is still there..except for this is a hurt that I can't really explain! It hurts, but its not the sharp shooting stabbing pains or the aching like I was having before...well Hubby and me have still been doing some reading and looking on the net, and I can't remember just where, but some where we saw where it said that sometimes if you have a tumor , that the tumor can cause this...also we read that even if you dont have a tumor and it just starts up on its own that you could have MS and not even know anything about it! So I had a talk with my Dr and I told her that I was concerned about these things and that I wanted an MRI done on me! I am now scheduled to go in on the 21st at 11:00 that morning and then at 11:45 I am to have my MRI....I do have one question though... Why do I have to wait 45 minutes to have the MRI????? Any ways....the past two morning I have found myself waking up at around 4:00 in the mornings hurting and finding myself with my hand up over my jaw holding it... I must have been moaning or something last night cause my Husband woke me up asking me what was wrong and if I was alright...when I woke up my hand was on the side of my face and I told him that I was hurting, and he told me to go take myself something for it, and so I did! Well, that's all of it so far... except that it has almost been a month now that I have been hurting!! Any ways... if anyone would like to talk to me, please feel free to write to me..I'll be happy to reply to you!! With prayers and Love & Hugs to all of you, Sunshyn


Name: "relieved"
Email: vw9731@sbc.com
City: S. Elgin
State: il
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 06/09/05

Just an FYI - My husband was diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia (TN) and was taking Neuronton for 2 years when he considered getting the nerve in his face cut. He was also put on anti-depressants during this time to ward off the depression from the Neuronton. I convinced him to see the dentist one more time. While he did not have a bad tooth, plaque had gotten down below the gum line and was deteriorating the jaw bone. He had the tooth extracted and it has not bothered him since. While I do not believe it will be this simple for most of you, just make sure you explore your pain with your dentist before taking all the meds or having surgery for TN. It was a difficult 2 years that could have been avoided had someone found this in the first place - he never had TN to start with.


Name: Melanie
Email: melanie.morgan@healthsouth.com
City: Birmingham
State: AL
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments:
Comments:
Date: 06/06/05

I am not exactly sure what my mom has, but she has been in pain for about 4 years now. She got dental implants, and it went terribly wrong. The doctor made mistakes, which left her in pain. She has tried many things, from drugs to the Gamma Knife treatment. Nothing has worked. While my mom had not taken a narcotic in her life before this, now she almost depends on them to help with the pain. She has lost about 50 pounds, weighs about 110 now. She can not eat, and stress ignites the pain. I pray every day that we can find a cure for her pain. If there is anybody out there that thinks they may be able to help, PLEASE let me know. I love my mom very much, and this pain is killing her.


Name: William
Email: williamcleon@sbcglobal.net
Diagnosis: Atypical Facial PainName: kathleen timmins


Email: kcimmins@Aol.com
City:
State:
Country: England
Diagnosis: Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia, Geniculate Neuralgia, Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: pills,pain blockers,numbing injections,removal of swelling
Comments:
Date: 05/29/05

I have been suffering with terrible pain in my gum/face for the past twelve years. It all started when i cracked my front right tooth whilst chewing a toffee. The pain at the time was bearable and kept coming and going but as time went on the pain started to get worse and last for longer periods of time. It always felt as if the nerve in the front of my face was trapped and if i wiggled my top lip i could relieve the pain and get rid of the trapped sensation. Now though the pain is constant and some days are worse than others, in a bid to try and relieve the pain i had my front tooth removed but still nothing happened. There was also some swelling on the back of my gum which the dentist cut away and put me into worse pain. I have had many pills such as tegretol and even had pain blockers and numbing injections but nothing can get rid of the pain. Although my face and gum feel numb the pain is still there and i have a twitching and pulling sensation in my face all thw while. Some days i can relax it down but others are pure hell and at present i cant find anyone who knows what it is. Some dentists have said trigeminal neuralgia others have said its a trapped nerve but no-one has given me a sloution. I wonder if anyone out there knows what it could be or has had similar symptons. Let me know by e-mailing me if anyone knows and i sympathise with all of you here as the pain of these diseases is terrible and cruel.


Name: Knierke
Email: whaka@netspace.net.au
City: Brisbane
State: Qld
Country: Australia
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: acupuncturist, neurontin
Comments:
Date: 05/24/05

How are you all? I just read all your stories on the TN web page and know what this horrible condition does to you. My name is Knierke and I live in Brisbane, Australia. I am originally from The Netherlands but decided to emigrate with my hubby, who is a New Zealander to work and live here in Oz. I have always worked in psychiatry but retired a year ago. I am diagnosed with TN 6 months ago after having painful episodes in my right jaw for almost 2 years. In my case it is the third nerve that's doing the damage and it affects mainly my lower jaw. The pain was awfull but I could live with it and when my doctor told me to go on the tegretol, I refused. In stead I started to see an accupuncturist who was very helpful and it relieved some of the the pain. Some 3 months ago the pain became worse and worse. Also it haunted me at night and still does. I have to take sleeping tablets to get a few hours of decent sleep. I saw my neurologist 2 weeks ago, she talked me into taking neurontin. At first I was very reluctant and asked her whether I could see a neuro-chirurgeon instead. She said that when the medication failed it was an option. I thought, well when I take the neurontin at least I have another option when it does not help. I took it for 3 days and instead of helping me it exaggerated my pain. Well, in short, I will see an neuro-surgeon in June and maybe there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I read a lot on this web-site and I see different statements about having surgery. But I am at my wits end and do not want to be in pain all the time. I read a comment from one who applied zostrix cream and had a fantastic result. Do you know whether anybody else has experience with it? At the moment I take magnesium, Vit B-12, calcium, Q10, multi-vitamins and see the accupuncturist. Maybe you might have some other suggestions? I will keep you posted about my experiences. I know there is a conference in Sydney about TN in August. Hopefully something good will come out of that. Hang in there!!!!! Bye for now..... Knierke


Name: "vicks"
Email: Private
City:
State:
Country: uk
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: medication and MVD
Comments:
Date: 05/18/05

I must have had Trigeminal Neuralgia (TN) since I was 22 and now I'm 33. I kept having these shooting, stabbing, spearing facial pains in my left cheek, the feeling like I was being stabbed with a very large knife hooked up to the mains electric. I looked in the mirror there was nothing on my face, I looked normal but the pain was so excruciating , it hit suddenly like a jolt of lightening to the face, again and again the pain stabs and then its gone., it only lasted for 10-30 seconds but it felt much longer. I just thought it was one of those things at first, like pins and needles or something, you knew it was going to happen but you did not know when, it was like waiting to be pushed off an edge of a cliff. I thought it would pass. It didn’t it continued for a very long time sometimes I would have up to 20 attacks a day and some days nothing, you would never know when it was coming it just happened and the pain was unbearable. Cold weather did not help either and I found a trigger point in my mouth just by my gum this would set the pain of at once if touched. I went to the doctor and asked him about these pains, he didn’t know and nor did I so I just put up with it. Then one week I was in serious pain worse than ever I was having about 40 stabbing pains a day and one evening I just felt very strange and suddenly my face felt numb! I looked in the mirror and the left side of my face was drooping and I could not close my left eye, my speech was very slurred. My husband took me straight to the emergency doctor who said I got "Bells Palsy" I had never heard of this. I was put on 8 steroids a day and off work for 2 months with having to have physiotherapy which was not much fun. After 2 months I made a full recovery. I was reading in a medical book all about Bells palsy when the topic on the other page caught my eye, I noticed a paragraph that said "shooting, stabbing pains" I continued to read it and it described my facial pains right down to a tee. This condition was called Trigeminal Neuralgia. It was totally unconnected to Bell’s Palsy. With this new info I went back to the doctors and told him what I had found, he agreed and prescribed me Tegretol (anticonvulsant) I was eventually on 900mg a day. The pain went which was great, but I started to notice I had memory loss I would make a cup of tea and then put the cup in the bin and the teabag in the sink! Crockery and other objects started to disappear and sometimes would reappear in strange place like the fridge or I would have thrown things away, it was the drugs so I went back to the doctors and told him the situation. I then went on Amitriptyline this did not touch the pain so I gave in and went off the meds. Years passed. I could not cope with the memory loss from the drug, and now the pain was increasing and becoming more severe. This condition seemed to be taking over my life, I got turned down form the Police force on medical grounds because of this .I know something had to change. I then (aged 31) went back to the doctors and said I cant take this pain it is getting worse and could he refer me to a neurologist. Several months later I got a date through (February 2003) to see the Neurologist Mr Nester at Hinchingbrooke Hospital. He put me on Trileptal a similar drug to Tegretol but a different chemical structure, he also booked me in for a MRI scan the date came through for September. I had the scan and saw Mr Nester I told him the Trileptal had the same side effects as Tegretol so he said the only solution left was surgery. He forwarded my case to Addenbrookes hospital in Cambridgeshire. I got an appointment for February 2004. I saw Mr Macfarlane the Consultant Neurosurgeon. He explained the options that were available to me 1) Gamma Knife which they do not have long term results of for TN patients.2) Radiofrequency Rhizotomy and 3) a procedure called Microvascular Decompression (MVD). I did not know which procedure to go for, this was my life and I had to weigh up the risks of all 3 procedures, he would contact me in 2 weeks. I had no literature to read so armed with the procedures he gave me I scanned the internet. I found the Trigeminal Neuralgia Association Web Site (www.tna-uk.org.uk) what a marvelous site, so much info, support and help. I found out so much more about this terrible condition, it is described as the worst pain known to man, which I can relate to. Armed with this new information and my husbands support I then decided to go for the MVD. This is considered as major surgery, it is the only procedure that does not attempt to destroy the nerve. Complications may occur these include hearing loss, numbness and dizziness but these are usually short lived. The most serious side effect is a stroke which is very rare, and less than 1% risk of death. This procedure had to me the best results and through the TNA I had met and talked to other sufferers who had this procedure and they had made a full recovery. The operation is carried out using a general anesthetic. The surgeon cuts a small hole in the skull just behind the ear and, using an operating microscope, exposes the Trigeminal Nerve where it enters the brainstem. The surgeon will then search for any blood vessels or veins that may be compressing the nerve and separate the two by inserting Teflon material to protect the nerve. I went in on Sunday 1 August 2004 to Addenbrookes Hospital, the staff were all great. I had a visit from the registrar Mr Wilby, then my surgeon Mr Macfarlane, all due to go ahead on Monday. Monday11:30 I get ready for theatre at this stage I am bricking it, they take me up to theatre at 12.15 they knocked me out pretty quick as I was rather in a state with tears and worry. I Was back on the ward at 5.00pm as I came round three familiar faces came into focus, My Husband Paul, the Registrar and Mr Macfarlane the surgeon. He informed me the operation had gone well, there was a vein compressing my nerve which he removed and 2 blood vessels close by which were moved out of the way and Teflon inserted to protect my nerve, I was so relieved. I noticed was my neck, it was so stiff they have to cut through the muscles in your neck to make the incision a good size for better access and I had the headache from hell. I noticed several machines beeping away at me and I was on a drip. Numerous nurses then asking me every 15 minutes, where I was, who is the prime minister and taking my blood pressure (this was to check my long term and short term memory) I stayed on oxygen the rest of the day and the whole night. Next day I woke up, Every time I moved my neck I got a headache and my neck still hurt .The thing I noticed was no pain in my face, no strange feelings in my face great. Wednesday still no pain. Thursday I was half awake and thought I had a bit of a stabbing in my face then fully woke up and talked myself out of it. One of the nurses wheeled me to the showers, under the shower nice, then bang oh my god this was a really bad face pain! This cant be happening, so there I was in the shower crying my eyes out, not a pretty picture. Got back to my bed said I need to the surgeon. Did not see him till the evening as he was in surgery. I had 9 more attacks in my face they were all very intense and severe. Mr Macfarlane arrived he said it could be due to the swelling I was put on gabapentin (another anticonvulsant drug). Another strange thing my head at the side and all round the back is totally numb, when I sit up in the morning I have to lift my head with me a feeling very much like when you have a injection at the dentists, This is due to them cutting through my nerves. The only other side effect was hearing loss but this was only temporary. After those 9 attacks I never did get anymore. I was discharged on day 7. I had to go back in 6 weeks for a check up. The scar was very neat, disposable stitches were used inside and steri-stripped the outside. I saw the registrar Mr Wilby after 6 weeks and I was weaned off the Gabapentin. I had a follow up with Mr Macfarlane on 4 Jan 05. I have been pain free ever since and drug free, no side effects and a full recovery. I can’t thank Mr Macfarlane the surgeon and his team enough, to take someone’s pain away like that, is amazing, he has given me a pain free life. I hope this story will be an inspiration to any other sufferers of Facial Pain. Have a look at the Trigeminal Neuralgia Associations Web site www.tna-uk.org.uk they were a great help. With them and a fellow sufferer I am helping in setting up a support group for the Cambridgeshire region. Helping fellow sufferers and making Doctors and Dentists more aware about this condition.


Name: Kathy
Email: katesmzbhaven@yahoo.com
City: sterling
State: colo
Country: usa
eDiagnosis:  Occipital Neuralgia
Treatments: Nerve Blocks X 3
Comments:
Date: 05/08/05

I have been diagnosed having Occipital Neuralgia after I was given 10 times the correct dosage of Epinephrine IV by a Medical worker. I have always been active, organized, able to do and handle anything and now don't know from one day/hour to the next how i will feel. We have tried nerve blocks, medicines that make a person so drowsy that you don't know your name or the time of day. Has anyone had any type of treatments or medications that have worked? I have read Bee stings have been used to treat Occipital Neuralgia. Please send me your storys on how Occipital Neuralgia has changed your lives.


Name: "hopeful"
Email:
Private
City: Elk Grove Village
State: IL
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain
Other:
Treatments: Vit E oil, "Primal?" supplement to fight yeast (Whole Foods),Sinofresh nasal irrigation, Calc/Mag 1000mg, Vit B complex, stretch neck, massage back of neck,shoulders
Comments:
Date: 05/06/05

I recently was experiencing what many of you described as atypical facial pain -- shooting nerve pain mainly in my right upper and lower jaw, but a little on my left side. Like many, I am under much stress. I had a slight injury to 2 teeth which started things. After reading many peoples postings, I was in so much pain that I borrowed from several people: I used Vitamin E oil to massage everywhere the nerves were panging along my teeth & gums. I irrigated my sinuses with SinoFresh, I took a supplement from Whole Foods (Primal Factor) to fight yeast imbalance, I took 1000mg calcium w/magnesium + vit B complex 3x per day, I stretch my neck back and then rock it from side to side SLOWLY, and I massage the back of my neck and shoulder area. I also am careful to calmly meditate before sleeping and to make sure I'm not holding my jaw tight or grinding my teeth through the night. I also make sure not to curl up in such a way as to mash my jaw into the bed/pillow/my raised shoulder/or blankets. This combination of many things recommended has cut the severity of the pain episodes about 95%. When I start to feel an attack coming on, I put the vit E oil all over my teeth and gums again and it staves off the pain. Just wanted to share, best of luck to all in your personal endeavor to deal with the pain each day.


Name: Jennifer
Email: jen@virtualhenrycounty.com
City: New Castle
State: IN
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Epitol)
Comments:
Date: 05/05/05

I am a 30 year old woman with three small children ages 3 1/2, 2 and 11 months and have just been diagnosed with TN. It started when maybe about 2 weeks ago I woke up in the night with a shocking pain right in the middle of my right cheek. It was a short stabbing type of pain that only happened a few times. I basically dismissed it. Then a few nights ago during the middle of a deep sleep I sat straight up with one of the worst pains I have ever endured. It was in the middle of my cheek and ran down my face. This time it felt like an electrical current was surging through the right side of my face. This jolt lasted about 20 seconds. Once the pain subsided I laid back and felt like I needed to hold my breath for fear of another attack. I was afraid to breath...afraid to move....afraid to feel my face to see if I was all right. I have since had several episodes. I cannot describe this pain...I am sure most of you know what this feels like though. My family doctor has referred me to a neurologist for further testing. I am so glad that I have not had to go through several doctors or some of the treatments that some of you have. But I have to admit I am scared to death of having to be on the medication or having to have a procedure done to alleviate the pain. I don't know how I am going to manage being on the drug as it makes me woozy and tends to knock me out at a low dose. I have three kids at home with me to take care of. I don't know what is worse...the pain... or being scared that I might pass out while at home alone with the kids where something bad might happen to them. I am guessing by some of your testimonies that this is something that doesn't go away. If any of you have any suggestions for me please email me. I am trying to be hopeful about this, but the more I read the more depressed and scared I become. Thanks for any help!!


Name: Tamra
Email: Private
City: Batavia
State: IL
Country: USA
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal NeuralgiaGlossopharyngeal Neuralgia, Atypical TN, Geniculate Neuralgia, Atypical Facial Pain,Occipital Neuralgia, NICO
Treatments: Elavil, Neurotin / Tegretol x 10 years
Comments: This may help some like me
Date: 05/05/05

I have suffered with GN/TN for years. I've been on Neurotin / Tegretol and a variety of other meds for years. For all of you who suffer from any type of neuralgic head / face / mouth pain which is also accompanied by a stuffy or runny nose I'd like to make a suggestion that seems to have helped me (sometimes but not all the time). At the first sign of pain- I hydrate my nasal membranes using a variety of methods such as 0.65% Sodium Chloride (Ocean spray) or Flonase or Nasonex or my head under a towel over a steamy pot or sometimes just standing erect so the head can drain before lying down, or getting up from bed when the pain comes at night and standing erect to allow the head to drain. Keep the nasal membranes as moist as possible, even if you have to put water up your nose by sniffing it off your finger. I would suggest you try each method separately so you can find if any or all work to help control the pain. It seems to have helped back down my pain at times. I'd love to hear if this helps anyone. I know just what a monster this pain can be. Good luck~


Name: Barky
Email: birch1000@hotmail.com
City: Quesnel
State: BC
Country: Canada
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia, Occipital Neuralgia
Treatments: Accupuncture Depomedrol
Comments: Here to Help
Date: 04/24/05

Greetings oh forlorn one. Yes I can see your concern. A history of headaches and now this. I have been 19 years with a non classic migraine. That is to say migraine without aura. My first intro to Migraine was in 1986 . I was hit in the right eye with a blunt object the size of my thumb. Within a week I was in a migraine attack but also had developed a condition called UV ITIS. . Don't ask me. Any way 14 years later at the same time as my divorce /seperation my migraines stopped . I spent 2 blissfull years with very few headaches when an unbelieveable thing happened. Well everybody knows the game that tow truck drivers play once they have your car. You know , possession is 9 /10s of the law. Well this one decided to push his point . I was hit over the head 4 times with a solid steel bar 2 feet long. Well I was knocked stunned. I could hear what was going on but I could not see. Well I spent the night in the hospital . I began having headaches again but they were different. They started in my neck not behind my right eye. So now , what do we have here but 2 types of migraine both atipical and non classic. But both the result of blunt trauma.Well this is year 19 and things are being understood somewhat. I still have much to learn and understand. The most important is how to carry on a life with these complications. It is good to talk I find , to those of similar constraints and burdens.Untill 6 months ago I had no idea what it was. I thought Meniers syndrome because that is what first came up with my google search with my symptoms. Dizzyness . The feeling that the ground was always moving like you were in the hold of a boat like a farrie where you are moving , you know it , but you cannot see it . Well It was somewhat a relief to me that it was not menieres. But he said "Your Dizzyness may never go away" . I said Doc it helps to know that it is a condition with a name.He asked if I had had the Ice pick pains in my temple , in my ear canal , the lightning bolts of pain that blind you with the searing white hot light that is left like the clap of thunder after the arc of neon fire were new . I said yes. He said they are above your ear and not so much in the jaw. I said yes. . He said you have Occipital neuralgia. and Cervicogenic headache. Well relief. I am no longer nutts. Now I can get on to treatment. This is 13 months after the injury. Yes I do agree with his conclusion and have had short term relief with Depo Medrol and accupuncture . Both had similar benifits like a reduction of frequency and severity . I prefer accupuncture and ostiopathy. The later is part of a Physio appt that includes accupuncture and ostiopathic manipulation. I think that its a draw which works best for me with only having to be able to afford the expence. I have lost my business and have had to come to terms with a life in flux. Not knowing if I go back to some sort of work will I be able to handle it. Also comes the question , If it is this bad at 53 yrs whats it going to be like at 70. I have a scence that a person not be too hasty. Oh and incidently. In the last 2 weeks I have been having strobing lights in the periferal vision. AKA Aura. So 19 years inot toh headache mode I now have a real live CLASSIC Migraine. Well I would be happy to respond to any questions. The one thing that I see is that a Trigeminal condition can hav influences in the occipital nerve placement grid and so the reverse. So I think they call that cross talk. I will post this at Questions and answers .


Name: sadie
Email: Private
City: ayrshire
State:
Country: scotland
Diagnosis:  no diagnosis yet
Treatments: amitriptyline and various pain killer
Comments:
Date: 04/23/05

Hi my name is sadie and I am 46 I have had my condition since I was 17 but would only bother me now and again, but for the last 3 years I have been plagued with it. I have passed out and ended up in hospital twice and was off work last year for about 17 weeks in all, I think I could be menopausal maybe this is making symptoms worse. Well my symptoms are, facial pain in cheek and nose area, inside feels all congested, I have a fullness feeling in ears especially right side, had them checked out no wax. head at back at base fells really heavy and dull ache, teeth sometimes are pained as well, I feel a heaviness down my right arm and have pins and needles in hands and feet. All in all I am a walking miracle. Really could end it all some days as I feel so ill. Have been to ENT surgeons they say nothing wrong with sinuses although for years doctors gave me antibiotics thinking it was. They washed there hands of me and said see an neurologist so I went private last year but he didn't think it was anything he could help with. Have had MRI's and CAT scans done of my sinus area nothing showed up have had camera down nose nothing showed. So my sinuses are ruled out even although I think my full face and ears are full of infection. But went to doctors last week again and he said it was sinus and gave me more antibiotics which didn't help. The area round my eye is now puffed up in the mornings and this makes me look terrible, My family life suffers as I can't pre book anything as I never now how I will feel that day. I don't know if this is the same as us but it sounds quite similar. I do appreciate how you feel though. I just would wven like someone to tell me what this is. Not knowing can be sometimes worse than knowing. I went to a person called Jan Devries, in Troon in Scotland and he is a well known Alternative Practitioner, he said I had TMJ and he did some Manipulation and this helped for a while but then it cam back again I attended him for a year and spent loads of money on this, but still no cure. Doctors don't think it is TMJ as I can open my mouth fully with no pain. So where do I go from here, I don't no my head is going round and round.


Name: Texas Rose
Email: Private
City: Austin
State: TX
Country: USA
Diagnosis:

Treatments: Many meds over many years; glycerol injection to the trigeminal nerve and gasserian ganglion in 1998; MVD and micro-surgical rhizotomy of the trigeminal nerve root
Comments: Too much of my life has been taken away by TN
Date: 04/22/05

To recap, after many years of very painful TN (12-15 years when counting all misdiagnoses, etc.) medications (tegretol, dilantin, all others) had failed me over and over and I finally had a percutaneous glycerol injection to the right trigeminal nerve and gasserian ganglion in 1998, which provided significant pain relief for almost 3 years. When the effects wore off (pain returned as the numbness from the procedure gradually diminished)from that procedure, my neurologist prescribed Neurontin and then the newer anti-seizure medications (Keppra, etc.), which had fewer side effects but also eventually failed me over time. Please understand that when a high dosage of a medication "fails", it can be a crisis event of over a week of very bad pain. Since you must "come down" off these very potent drugs gradually first, then gradually building up the newest drug, that time period in-between can be excruciatingly painful until the new med finally starts helping. With the anti-seizure drugs, you cannot withdraw the ineffective drug dosage too quickly or you may actually have a seizure, even though you are taking the drug "off label". (I had learned that subsequent glycerol injections were seldom as effective as the first one.) At that time, I asked for and received a referral for surgery. I visited 4 neurosurgeons in 3 differnet cities and had 3 different procedures recommended to me because of my long-standing history: radiofrequency rhizotomy, MVD and gamma knife. During this period of time, I started going to a local TNA support group meeting, which was very helpful and provided a wealth of information that helped me sort out the decisions that I had to make for what was the next step for me. In June 2004 an Assistant Prof of Neurological Surgery at UT Southwestern Medical School in Dallas performed a suboccipital craniectomy with (a)MVD of the 5th cranial nerve, and (b) micro-surgical rhizotomy of the trigeminal nerve root. The rhizotomy is a part of this surgeon's surgical approach, and in addition a high-contrast MRI and his visual exam of my trigeminal nerve and surrounding area did not indicate any veins or arteries causing compression or damage to the nerve. I cannot say enough positive things about the surgeon, the clinical nurse and medical team and the medical care at Southwestern Medical School and Zale-Lipshy Hospital. Although the post-op visits were not convenient since I live approx 400 miles away, I also was able to consult by telephone for any questions and was carefully weaned off the medications that I was taking pre-surgery over a period of several months. I recommend that you do as much research looking for the correct approach for you (including type of surgery if surgery is your choice). Then, I also recommend that when lookig for a surgeon, you choose one who has done many of the type of surgery you are going to have and has an established surgical team. Finally, check with the Board of Medical Examiners in your state to determine whether there have been any complaints or sanctions brought against your potential surgeon, and check out the website in your state to check the mortality rates in the hospitals where you might be hospitalized, especially for a similar type of surgery (or at least for craniotomies). But especially study, study,study about TN and the possible treatments. Looking back at the progression of my illness, I took a very conservative approach, but finally reached the point where I felt that I must try surgery. No one will be more diligent than you yourself, so be sure that your decisions are informed ones. Then, in addition to research, pray and place your trust in God. I would like to offer the following website for good visuals about many aspects of TN: http://www.umanitoba.ca/cranial_nerves/trigeminal_neuralgia/index.html It is not the most detailed as far as medical information and comprehensive detail, but the visuals are VERY helpful, especial to explain you illness to family members. I wish everyone who has written "my story" the very best as you travel the trail that I have travelled. I hope that some of this is helpful: try the website !!


Name: steve
Email: golflynx_2000@yahoo.com
City: vista
State: ca
Country: usa
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: just diagnosed
Comments: im in hell
Date: 04/19/05

about 4 weeks ago i woke up with the worst pain i have ever felt in my head. it was above my left temple and radiated through my left eye and across my left temple. i have had headaches all my life including a few migrains. nothing ive felt in the past compaired to this pain. i had been having problems with a tooth on my left side and figured that was it or a reaction to the pain killers i had been taking (vicodine- asperine with caffine-advil) but when the pain came back the next night and every night for the last 3 weeks i saw a doctor. at this point he has suggested tn, allthough my pain is more in my optic region than in my jaw. after reading about this online i fear that this is my problem. i am scheduled for the basic tests (mri brain scan ect.) to rule out tumors. but in the meantime i am forced to rely on vicodine as this happens to me every night between the hours of 7 and 10 and isnt short bursts of pain but constant pain untill the vicodine kicks in (if it even does) as a cronic headache sufferer this is a death sentence for me. i cant think of a worse non fatal problem that i could have. i am a beginner any suggestions or info would be helpfull. thank you


Name: Kelly
Email: kj97y100@gmail.com
City: Highland
State: IL
Country: USA
Diagnosis: Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: Darvoset, Ultracet, Ketek, Nasacort
Comments:
Date: 04/13/05

Hi. I am a 26 year old at home mom. I have 2 children ages 3 and 4. I am trying to write a book but it is hard during an attack from the pain and the pain killers. Let me start from the beginning. Feburary 18, 2005 I started having a bad toothache that went away with 2000 mg of Tylenol. March 10, 2005 I was still having the toothache but a migrain started. March 24th, I finally went to the doctor because the pain was unbearable and I was crying most of the day from the pain and Tylenol and my husband's Vicodin (500mg) didn't work. I told the doc my symptoms of burning sensations in my teeth, jaw pain, a migrain that wouldn't go away that stayed on the left side of my head and in my eye socket. He told me about TN. He set me up with an MRI to see what was causing it. March 28th I had the MRI. On the 29th, the doc called me back with the results. I had a rare sinus that ran from my nose to my ear. It was infected causing the TN. He said that without the MRI, he never would have caught it. He put me on Darvoset for the pain and Augmenten for the infection. He also gave me Nasacort to prevent another infection from allergies. Well the pain went away on April 2nd. April 10th, the pain came back with full force. I took my Darvoset, but it barely worked. I took more later and it did nothing to the pain. I called the doc and he gave me Ultracet (which is used for people who have pain from Osteoarthitis). That takes the edge off of the pain, but the pain is still there. I have found that if I have pain, I can take a Ultracet at the beginning, if it stops working I can take a Darvoset, and I will have a little pain, but totally bearable, unfortonatly the side effets are dizzyness and drowsyness. It is hard to write a book when the screen is spinning infront of you. He also thinks I have another sinus infection so he gave me Ketek. Hopefully this works. My husband doesn't understand the pain I am in and my kids get scared when they see me cry because of the pain. Hopefully someday a drug will be invented to keep this pain away for good.


Name: "dustwaits"
Email: dustwaits@yahoo.com
City: Indpls
State: IN
Country: usa
Diagnosis:  Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia
Treatments: greater and lessor occipital nerve blocks
Comments: painful and disturbing
Date: 04/12/05

The pain in my head, follows a path as if my head were actually cut in half. The pain which comes at its' own will, is relieved somewhat by the nerve blocks. I am interested to know if YOU have had any of the blocks, did they relieve your pain? Did the pain come back after the initial anesthesia wears off? I'd love to hear from you if you have endured any of this sort of pain or treatments. Thank you.


Name: DON
Email: dszoberman@sympatico.ca
City: TORONTO
State: ON
Country: CANADA
Diagnosis:  Atypical Facial Pain
Treatments: MEDICATIONS UNSUCCESSFULLY THEN SUCCESS BY HAVING THE TOOTH REMOVED
Comments: PAIN FREE. WHY DID I WAIT SIX YEARS?
Date: 04/12/05

My story was posted on October 12, 2004. I had suffered from what was diagnosed as Atypical Facial Pain (facial-neuralgia) for more than six years following a root canal. A couple of years ago I was told by the director of a pain centre I am a patient of that there was no resolution and all the clinic could do was provide medication. I had asked dental professionals many times over the years about extracting the tooth and was told each and every time there was no evidence to suggest removing the tooth would resolve the problem. I was also frightened into not removing the tooth by being told by both medical and dental professionals that the pain could get even worse if I chose to extract the tooth. About eight months ago the combination of pressure from a friend of mine and the fact that the medication I had been on for almost two years appeared to be weakening in effectiveness I began searching for someone to remove the tooth and had it extracted on January 4, 2005. I was left with a small gap where tooth 37 was, on the lower left side but compared to the pain I am now in paradise. I am still tapering of the medication I was on for the past two years but hopefully within another month or two I will be finished with the medications as well. To be perfectly blunt my gut feeling always was to pull the tooth however I do caution anyone who reads this that just because I was cured by a simple extraction it does not mean this same procedure will cure everyone with a similar problem. What I found was that in both the dental and medical professions no one person had all the answers and it was up to me to put the pieces together. Sometimes the arguments were very convincing but I was careful not to act without examining all the facts and when I put all the pieces together extracting the tooth not only seemed like a logical move but also the only thing I had not done. I just could not see myself on medication the rest of my life since any effective medication has side effects, usually some degree of sedation, creating ongoing lethargy. The Oral Surgeon who extracted the tooth agreed I had done everything imaginable except extract the tooth and because of that he had no problem doing as I requested. There were no guarantees due to a lack of physical evidence so I had to sign a waiver, but in my mind from a logical perspective everything pointed to the tooth and the Oral Surgeon agreed. A couple of months earlier I had a consultation with another Oral Surgeon who at that time agreed to extract the tooth but just asked me to think about it for a little while. A couple of weeks later I called to make the appointment and through his secretary I was told he decided he would not pull the tooth and as well never spoke with me directly despite my leaving five messages during the coming week in order find out why he changed his mind. I found out through the College of Dental Surgeons that due to a lack of physical evidence indicating the source of the pain I could end up experiencing some difficulty in finding an Oral Surgeon who would be willing to perform the procedure. It was this Oral Surgeon’s prerogative not to agree to do the work but the way he went about it was very unprofessional. I suppose however it was an example of what the College of Dental Surgeons suggested I might experience in looking for an Oral Surgeon. Prior to this and out of desperation, about a year and a half ago I filed a complaint with the College of Dental Surgeons who found no wrong doing by the Endodontist who performed the root canal. Despite the fact the Endodontist tried to defend his work by submitting a psychoanalysis of any of my personal history he was aware of, the College did not even consider this out of line and stated in their conclusions that is was just an attempt to find the origin of the problem. For the record he used my father’s death and the loss of a job, both of which occurred more than 2 years after the pain began. Despite the fact the Endodontist clearly had all his facts twisted as the two year time difference shows, the College still accepted his attempt. The doctor who was at the time prescribing medication to control the pain submitted his opinion as requested by the College and he stated clearly the Endodontist should stay within his field of expertise, but the College of Dental Surgeons still maintained their position. When I submitted an appeal to the Health Professions Appeal and Review Board they also did not see anything wrong with the College of Dental Surgeons accepting the Endodontist’s comments. I am telling you this because it is important to know that we are not totally protected by the professions themselves therefore we still must be on our guard. I have not doubt most are competent in their professions but found some who were not only wrong and sometimes rude but I as well had an experience with one who I felt exploited my situation for financial reasons. This particular dentist billed my insurance plan beyond my initial exam/consultation without my knowledge. Through this web site I became friends with a lady and although we have communicated via email only over the past six months, she has helped me considerably through our frequent correspondence. I cannot thank this lady enough for her interest, support and frequent kind words. It is clearly evident that I could not have been suffering from Atypical Facial Pain if an extraction left me pain free. I pray that all of you find a cure for your pain. I lived with it for six years and know how it can affect a person’s life. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to email me. If there is any information I can provide through my experience that might lead you to be cured as well I will be happy to share it with you. We may differ in the kind of pain we experience but the frustration can be the same. Although it is easier said than done, never give up hope.


Name: Tara
Email: private
City: st johns
State: mi
Country: U.S
Diagnosis:  Trigeminal Neuralgia
Treatments: tegratol ,Vicodin
Comments:
Date: 04/10/05

Im 28 years old and have 2 children and a husband.Well it was about three weeks ago when the pain started.I was with my husband in the truck when i felt this dull ache coming on in my left ear! I thought it was a ear infection coming on! Then about 5 minutes later WHAM!!!! It felt like someone stabbed me right in the ear the pain was so bad it put me right down in the seat. Then my whole left side of my face went numb!I called the doctor and made an appointment and thought i had one heck of an ear infection.By 11:00 pm that night i was in the ER in tremendous pain!When the doc looked in my ear and told me that it was fine no infection nothing i couldnt belive it!!So i went to my regular doc and he tells me its neuralgia!I was so scared and in denial and thought something else must be wrong so i went to the dentist and had my upper left molar pulled thinking that was it man was i wrong there was no infection or anything just 2 surface cavitys.Now im in more pain than before and it seems to